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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='223160' date='Jan 12 2006, 02:15 AM
I can't wait to join in on this discussion when I get my GT2. I had previously been very impressed but also doubtful about the R&T 5.2 time but you both have given me renewed hope and enthusiasm.
I do not have the experience and wisdom of you gents so I would definitely need your guidance in doing the calculations and analysis. As you can see from my signature below, my engine is stock. The only two items that may be of material significance right now are 1) I have 20" forged lightweight wheels which supposedly are still a few lbs lighter than the stock 18" sports pkg setup at each corner, but with a bigger overall wheel&tire diameter and 2) I'm only 130lbs (seriously).
I'm anxious to get some test times with my stock engine because I plan on installing the Dinan CAI, throttle body and exhaust soon, hopefully by end of this month. I also plan on getting the Dinan MAF and ECU programming when it comes out later in the Spring, supposedly. It'll be interesting to see, hopefully, incremental and noticeable improvements in the performance times with each upgrade phase.
I do not have the experience and wisdom of you gents so I would definitely need your guidance in doing the calculations and analysis. As you can see from my signature below, my engine is stock. The only two items that may be of material significance right now are 1) I have 20" forged lightweight wheels which supposedly are still a few lbs lighter than the stock 18" sports pkg setup at each corner, but with a bigger overall wheel&tire diameter and 2) I'm only 130lbs (seriously).
I'm anxious to get some test times with my stock engine because I plan on installing the Dinan CAI, throttle body and exhaust soon, hopefully by end of this month. I also plan on getting the Dinan MAF and ECU programming when it comes out later in the Spring, supposedly. It'll be interesting to see, hopefully, incremental and noticeable improvements in the performance times with each upgrade phase.
I believe Znod doesn't torque brake but I really don't know if it matters.As you can see in the thread our times are extremely close.There is diff in the roads and weather conditions which could easily make up for the small differences in our times.
Looking forward to review your results.
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I can't wait to join in on this discussion when I get my GT2. I had previously been very impressed but also doubtful about the R&T 5.2 time but you both have given me renewed hope and enthusiasm.
I do not have the experience and wisdom of you gents so I would definitely need your guidance in doing the calculations and analysis. As you can see from my signature below, my engine is stock. The only two items that may be of material significance right now are 1) I have 20" forged lightweight wheels which supposedly are still a few lbs lighter than the stock 18" sports pkg setup at each corner, but with a bigger overall wheel&tire diameter and 2) I'm only 130lbs (seriously).
I'm anxious to get some test times with my stock engine because I plan on installing the Dinan CAI, throttle body and exhaust soon, hopefully by end of this month. I also plan on getting the Dinan MAF and ECU programming when it comes out later in the Spring, supposedly. It'll be interesting to see, hopefully, incremental and noticeable improvements in the performance times with each upgrade phase.
I do not have the experience and wisdom of you gents so I would definitely need your guidance in doing the calculations and analysis. As you can see from my signature below, my engine is stock. The only two items that may be of material significance right now are 1) I have 20" forged lightweight wheels which supposedly are still a few lbs lighter than the stock 18" sports pkg setup at each corner, but with a bigger overall wheel&tire diameter and 2) I'm only 130lbs (seriously).
I'm anxious to get some test times with my stock engine because I plan on installing the Dinan CAI, throttle body and exhaust soon, hopefully by end of this month. I also plan on getting the Dinan MAF and ECU programming when it comes out later in the Spring, supposedly. It'll be interesting to see, hopefully, incremental and noticeable improvements in the performance times with each upgrade phase.
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I have experienced this problem in premature and soft shift.In my case it is definitley wheelspin that causes the problem.I usually abort the run when this occurs.
Well Znod I see we are making progress with other 545 owners.For awhile I thought you and I were the only participants in this thread.I know there is a 0-60 time of under 5secs out there,who will be the first to achieve this goal?
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
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We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
[/quote]Hi grogan and Eurocarfan:
I agree with everything grogan said. And, be sure and check out our GT2 settings above on this thread--using a 12" roll out in this context. I assume grogan is still changing to 12 inches. If not you could follow me using 12 inches or him using 10 inches. I don't think the difference would be significant--anything but barely measureable at most.
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
I agree with everything grogan said. And, be sure and check out our GT2 settings above on this thread--using a 12" roll out in this context. I assume grogan is still changing to 12 inches. If not you could follow me using 12 inches or him using 10 inches. I don't think the difference would be significant--anything but barely measureable at most.
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Yes I am going to a 12" rollout.I haven't done it yet the weather has been terrible.cold & raining.As soon as the temp gets above 55 and the roads dry out I will try a couple of runs and post the times with the 12" rollout.
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Originally Posted by grogan545' post='223991' date='Jan 13 2006, 09:59 PM
[quote name='EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM']
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
I agree with everything grogan said. And, be sure and check out our GT2 settings above on this thread--using a 12" roll out in this context. I assume grogan is still changing to 12 inches. If not you could follow me using 12 inches or him using 10 inches. I don't think the difference would be significant--anything but barely measureable at most.
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Yes I am going to a 12" rollout.I haven't done it yet the weather has been terrible.cold & raining.As soon as the temp gets above 55 and the roads dry out I will try a couple of runs and post the times with the 12" rollout.
[/quote]I have a new one for you. I have been getting some wierd inconsistent results (only) lately. It is making it hard to know what is going on. For example, this morning I had a typical time to 80--about 8.65, but, impossibly, my 1/8th was 8.83 at 79.5. Obviously one can't get to 80 before 79.5. Any thoughts. Inverted results like this on have occurred four times recently, but never before.
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='224020' date='Jan 13 2006, 11:29 PM
[quote name='grogan545' post='223991' date='Jan 13 2006, 09:59 PM']
[quote name='EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM']
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
[quote name='EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM']
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
I agree with everything grogan said. And, be sure and check out our GT2 settings above on this thread--using a 12" roll out in this context. I assume grogan is still changing to 12 inches. If not you could follow me using 12 inches or him using 10 inches. I don't think the difference would be significant--anything but barely measureable at most.
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Yes I am going to a 12" rollout.I haven't done it yet the weather has been terrible.cold & raining.As soon as the temp gets above 55 and the roads dry out I will try a couple of runs and post the times with the 12" rollout.
[/quote]I have a new one for you. I have been getting some wierd inconsistent results (only) lately. It is making it hard to know what is going on. For example, this morning I had a typical time to 80--about 8.65, but, impossibly, my 1/8th was 8.83 at 79.5. Obviously one can't get to 80 before 79.5. Any thoughts. Inverted results like this on have occurred four times recently, but never before.
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Sounds a little wierd but I do have a possible explanation.Is it possible you let off the accelerator a little before the 1/8 mile mark?This device measures your speed at exactley the 1/8 mile mark,it does not measure the highest speed achieved during a run.If you let off a little early(50' or so)you would have slowed slightly from 80mph and therefore have a slightly lower speed at the 1/8 mark.
I have another vehicle(grand cherokee with hemi) that I experienced this condition.It is slower than my 545 so I am able to go a full 1/4 on my test road(if I am brave enough).On a couple of runs I was't brave enough and let off early.I had results that made no sense,14.52 sec @ 86mph.When I don't let off early the results are 14.47 @94+ mph.
If you know you are not letting off early this can not be the problem.Then I would suspect a malfunction in your GT2(I hope not)
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Originally Posted by grogan545' post='224074' date='Jan 14 2006, 06:58 AM
[quote name='Znod' post='224020' date='Jan 13 2006, 11:29 PM']
[quote name='grogan545' post='223991' date='Jan 13 2006, 09:59 PM']
[quote name='EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM']
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
[quote name='grogan545' post='223991' date='Jan 13 2006, 09:59 PM']
[quote name='EuroCarFan' post='223975' date='Jan 13 2006, 08:55 PM']
I got my GT2 today but not sure when I can start using it. Suppose to rain all weekend here in the Bay Area. Wonder how much hydroplanning can affect timing...
We are anxiously waiting for some results from you to see if your times are similar.Don't get discouraged if your first few tries are not good.It will take some practise.
I agree with everything grogan said. And, be sure and check out our GT2 settings above on this thread--using a 12" roll out in this context. I assume grogan is still changing to 12 inches. If not you could follow me using 12 inches or him using 10 inches. I don't think the difference would be significant--anything but barely measureable at most.
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Yes I am going to a 12" rollout.I haven't done it yet the weather has been terrible.cold & raining.As soon as the temp gets above 55 and the roads dry out I will try a couple of runs and post the times with the 12" rollout.
[/quote]I have a new one for you. I have been getting some wierd inconsistent results (only) lately. It is making it hard to know what is going on. For example, this morning I had a typical time to 80--about 8.65, but, impossibly, my 1/8th was 8.83 at 79.5. Obviously one can't get to 80 before 79.5. Any thoughts. Inverted results like this on have occurred four times recently, but never before.
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Sounds a little wierd but I do have a possible explanation.Is it possible you let off the accelerator a little before the 1/8 mile mark?This device measures your speed at exactley the 1/8 mile mark,it does not measure the highest speed achieved during a run.If you let off a little early(50' or so)you would have slowed slightly from 80mph and therefore have a slightly lower speed at the 1/8 mark.
I have another vehicle(grand cherokee with hemi) that I experienced this condition.It is slower than my 545 so I am able to go a full 1/4 on my test road(if I am brave enough).On a couple of runs I was't brave enough and let off early.I had results that made no sense,14.52 sec @ 86mph.When I don't let off early the results are 14.47 @94+ mph.
I am not with you totally mon. The above let-off time/speeds make sense to me--slower/faster time and speed given let off/no let off. My tests are showing quicker to 80 than 79.5.
But, you helped me think more clearly about the issue. Note that I did not let off; I went all the way past 90 to over 93 (i.e., the meter does show the max speed achieved, but not the related time). But, an implicit let off may be possible.
What if my car is shifting shortly after 80 mph, but right before the 1/8 is done. Could my car have slowed slightly during the shift. If so, this phenomenon could explain my seemingly slightly low 1/8 speeds. I will do some calculations and see if my car may be shifting to, I guess, 3rd (or would it be 4th) at around 80 mph.
It would be great if we could reconcile all. I know you--you'll calculate too. And, you might get it done before me since we now are off to run Sat. morn. errands. Thanks for thinking with me. And, please let me know what speeds you think your car is shfting at; you mentioned some of this before, but I can't recall.
If you know you are not letting off early this can not be the problem.Then I would suspect a malfunction in your GT2(I hope not)
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I have a new one for you. I have been getting some wierd inconsistent results (only) lately. It is making it hard to know what is going on. For example, this morning I had a typical time to 80--about 8.65, but, impossibly, my 1/8th was 8.83 at 79.5. Obviously one can't get to 80 before 79.5. Any thoughts. Inverted results like this on have occurred four times recently, but never before.
I have another vehicle(grand cherokee with hemi) that I experienced this condition.It is slower than my 545 so I am able to go a full 1/4 on my test road(if I am brave enough).On a couple of runs I was't brave enough and let off early.I had results that made no sense,14.52 sec @ 86mph.When I don't let off early the results are 14.47 @94+ mph.
I am not with you totally mon. The above let-off time/speeds make sense to me--slower/faster time and speed given let off/no let off. My tests are showing quicker to 80 than 79.5.
But, you helped me think more clearly about the issue. Note that I did not let off; I went all the way past 90 to over 93 (i.e., the meter does show the max speed achieved, but not the related time). But, an implicit let off may be possible.
What if my car is shifting shortly after 80 mph, but right before the 1/8 is done. Could my car have slowed slightly during the shift. If so, this phenomenon could explain my seemingly slightly low 1/8 speeds. I will do some calculations and see if my car may be shifting to, I guess, 3rd (or would it be 4th) at around 80 mph.
It would be great if we could reconcile all. I know you--you'll calculate too. And, you might get it done before me since we now are off to run Sat. morn. errands. Thanks for thinking with me. And, please let me know what speeds you think your car is shfting at; you mentioned some of this before, but I can't recall. You'll have to allow, of course, for the difference in our tire diameters if you choose to calculate. See you later.
[/quote]I have thought about the issue, and am at a loss. My car could not be shifting into 3rd at more than about 62 or 63 mph assuming (1) that R&T's speed per gear values are based on (1) a 275 / 35-18 tire size (as is implied) and (2) that R&T's 6.5k rpm max speeds in 2nd/3rd of 62 and 95 are correct--given this tire size.
And, I completely missed what you said above: "You are right about the diff in ratio due to tire size.The standard goodyear RSA 225/50 are 25.9" dia. Guessing you have PS2 that are 245's(19")dia. is 26.7." But, no, my tires are 275 X 30-19 and, thus, have a diameter of about 25.7" diameter. Thus, I acutally have a very small effective rear-end factor better than yours rather than what we have been saying.