How is the brightness at daylight

 

Just installed these. Very disappointed During daytime even without sun, they are not visible at all! nighttime it's about the same brightness as factory ones but white.




And yeah, pictures of AE are extremely deceiving

 

I don't think you can get any aftermarket solution apart from Orions that deliver any decent daylight brightness on these.
The rings on pre-LCI models are not made to stream light as effectively as the LCI ones, and that's the way things are.
I disagree about them not being visible at all in the daylight, if you look from a lower point of view - directly "in the eyes" - you can see them all right. Ask someone to drive in front of you, he will surely notice you've got them on. And in the evening, they're definitely looking great - and that's for the 40 euro is fine enough.

So yes, they're not usable as daylight driving light but that was never claimed by anyone.

 

I think it's rather subjective until you have seen what is bright. I know InFBMW sentiments. That's why I went with Orions.

And yes, pictures of AEs are extremely deceiving as it's very difficult to capture correctly on camera.

The best pics I have seen taken of the Orions is probably by Rizbel.

 

How much are the Orion kits in comparison to the ones that InFBMW and beamlord picked up? I know its abit novice, but are the orion kits, the ones that require a full headlight stripdown?

 

As far as I know they both are plug'n'play. I paid 75$ to get those bulbs from Europe.

 

looking good but for me yellow is better.

 

Yeah they require you to take the whole headlight apart, which is really far from trivial, and they cost something around 150 Euro.