Installed Subwoofer?
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Originally Posted by acribb' date='Mar 22 2005, 09:28 AM
I?m trying to install an amp and sub to the factory system on my 2004 530i.? It has the standard sound system, with a very small subwoofer amp.? I?m planning on tapping in to those sub frequencies coming out of the stock subwoofer amp, using a line out converter (speaker level to RCA converter) to my JL 2501 amp which will drive a JL 12w3 sub.? I need some opinions on what is what on this stock wiring harness coming out of the small subwoofer amp on the standard U.S. audio system.? This is the small silver box on the left side of the trunk.? I?m pretty sure I know which ones are the speaker wires, I just don?t know what the positive and negative wires for each one are, or how to test the polarity.? I?m open to suggestions.? Thanks.
Factory wire harness:
Attachment 6003
Going from left to right.? SMALL BLACK WIRES-input signal from head unit (MASK computer).? FIRST SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/white stripe, red/blue stripe. SECOND SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/yellow stripe, red/white stripe. AMP REMOTE TURN-ON-small white wire. POWER-thick red wire. GROUND-thick brown wire.
Factory wire harness:
Attachment 6003
Going from left to right.? SMALL BLACK WIRES-input signal from head unit (MASK computer).? FIRST SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/white stripe, red/blue stripe. SECOND SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/yellow stripe, red/white stripe. AMP REMOTE TURN-ON-small white wire. POWER-thick red wire. GROUND-thick brown wire.
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Originally Posted by RnrdTheFox' date='Apr 5 2005, 12:40 AM
[quote name='acribb' date='Mar 22 2005, 09:28 AM']I?m trying to install an amp and sub to the factory system on my 2004 530i.? It has the standard sound system, with a very small subwoofer amp.? I?m planning on tapping in to those sub frequencies coming out of the stock subwoofer amp, using a line out converter (speaker level to RCA converter) to my JL 2501 amp which will drive a JL 12w3 sub.? I need some opinions on what is what on this stock wiring harness coming out of the small subwoofer amp on the standard U.S. audio system.? This is the small silver box on the left side of the trunk.? I?m pretty sure I know which ones are the speaker wires, I just don?t know what the positive and negative wires for each one are, or how to test the polarity.? I?m open to suggestions.? Thanks.
Factory wire harness:
Attachment 6003
Going from left to right.? SMALL BLACK WIRES-input signal from head unit (MASK computer).? FIRST SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/white stripe, red/blue stripe. SECOND SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/yellow stripe, red/white stripe. AMP REMOTE TURN-ON-small white wire. POWER-thick red wire. GROUND-thick brown wire.
Factory wire harness:
Attachment 6003
Going from left to right.? SMALL BLACK WIRES-input signal from head unit (MASK computer).? FIRST SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/white stripe, red/blue stripe. SECOND SUBWOOFER PAIR-brown/yellow stripe, red/white stripe. AMP REMOTE TURN-ON-small white wire. POWER-thick red wire. GROUND-thick brown wire.
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[/quote]I am almost finished installing a JL 250/1 and 12 w3 (sealed box) setup in my lightly optioned 530. I gave it a quick test run and everything sounds GREAT. It?s just the bass punch the car needed. The stock stereo is not bad ? it just needs some low end, which this setup provides without overpowering the stock system. Now I need some input on where to mount the small amp. I?m thinking on the left side somehow, but I don?t want to drill holes in the car. Any ideas?
As for the stock sound system: The MASK (head unit basically) feeds crossed over power to the mids and highs and the cars. The bass frequencies are fed to that little silver box in the trunk on the left hand side and then that amplifies a whopping 40w x 2 to the pathetic subs under the front seats. I was right on about the polarity of the stock wires which I made an educated guess on earlier in this post.
BTW, the post earlier in this thread with pictures showing an ?amp? is really the TCU, not the amp. The only amp back there is the silver box shaped thing. The head unit feeds the mids and highs, the little amp in the back feeds the central bass.
I'm not sure if the head unit outputs only sub frequencies to the amp in the back or if the amp crosses them over before going to the central bass. You'd have to test that yourself. The little black wires in my picture of the wiring harness are the ones coming from the head unit, a left and right pair of black wires.
I?ll try and post pictures of the finished product, once done.
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Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
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Originally Posted by E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM
Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
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[quote name='Merzbow' date='May 7 2005, 10:34 PM']
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
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Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
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Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
##############################################
Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
##############################################
Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
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Originally Posted by E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:36 PM
[quote name='Merzbow' date='May 7 2005, 10:34 PM']
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
##############################################
Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
##############################################
Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
##############################################
Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
##############################################
Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
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But good luck if you go ahead with this.
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Originally Posted by Merzbow' date='May 8 2005, 09:52 AM
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:36 PM']
[quote name='Merzbow' date='May 7 2005, 10:34 PM']
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
##############################################
Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
##############################################
Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
[quote name='Merzbow' date='May 7 2005, 10:34 PM']
[quote name='E60fun' date='May 7 2005, 09:45 AM']Hello !
Is it anyone, who is installed aftermarket radio to E60 ?
How I can dissassembling dashboard , so that I can install
aftermarket radio to place, where now is CD-slot.
Sorry , my english is , "not so good" !
Ok, thank?s in advance !
E60fun
##############################################
Welcome to the forum. People have taken out the CD slot and put in a new head unit, but by all accounts this is a risky procedure. Instead think of running the existing high-level output from the factory amp to a LOC, then to your own new amplifiers and speakers. And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
##############################################
Ok all...
That?s right , my plan is, new headunit, new DSP unit, new amplifiers,
and new Speakers incl. subwoofer.
I have already all these components.
So I don?t make any change?s to existing system.
E39 was easy to install new headunit...but now, to E60 , I dont
know yet, how I can dissassembling that CD-slot.
Here is very spesialist of car audio, with me, so it?s ok.
See you later.....E60fun
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But good luck if you go ahead with this.
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[/quote]Hi..
Ok, I know, we must be carefull, with that installing.
My E60 have Standard Sound System, and sound is very
poor,
I try to take some pictures, when /if I start that job.
cheer?s.....E60fun
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And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
The days of high-end car audio have nearly ended, thanks to innovations such as iDrive. These days you can't even remove the headunit on a Honda Accord, which used to be one of the best platforms for upgrading audio. It's really sad to see.... because even the Logic 7 system sucks ass compared to the quality of a basic aftermarket system.
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Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='May 8 2005, 08:39 PM
And do not think of doing this yourself, go to a high-end car audio shop that specializes in expensive cars.
The days of high-end car audio have nearly ended, thanks to innovations such as iDrive. These days you can't even remove the headunit on a Honda Accord, which used to be one of the best platforms for upgrading audio. It's really sad to see.... because even the Logic 7 system sucks ass compared to the quality of a basic aftermarket system.
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And in the end, there is ALWAYS a solution for high-end car audio for those willing to spend the money, even if it requires custom construction of a fiberglass add-in above the driver's knees to house an aftermarket head-unit.
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And in the end, there is ALWAYS a solution for high-end car audio for those willing to spend the money, even if it requires custom construction of a fiberglass add-in above the driver's knees to house an aftermarket head-unit.
If only a professional sports player can afford to put in a decent audio system because of having to work around a dash which won't allow a replacement headunit, then the high-end audio industry will ultimately fail.
I don't share your optimism with respect the the "audio industry" having any degree of leverage with the automotive industry. I personally think the auto industry has thumbed its proverbial nose at the audio industry and made aftermarket audio more difficult intentionally. In fact, I think that car companies don't want anyone adding aftermarket audio.... and that's why they have begun to design cars the way they do now.