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Old 01-02-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='372863' date='Jan 2 2007, 03:25 AM
The results are impressive: 489 HP SAE @ 6500 RPM, but more important, an astounding 408 lbs-ft of torque at only 3800 RPM. The performance of the R54 Sedan is exhilarating: 0-62 mph in a mere 4.5 seconds, and a top speed of 200 mph.

Price ? Impressive like performance ?
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I remembered someone posted the price list for RD Sport and that 5.4 conversion was around $45K but I don't remember if that was US$ or Euros.
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I remembered someone posted the price list for RD Sport and that 5.4 conversion was around $45K but I don't remember if that was US$ or Euros.
Does not matter if it's in USD or Euros, I'd not go for that price. I'd rather trade in my current 550i for an used M5, and spend all changes for gas and chickas
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='373089' date='Jan 2 2007, 03:20 PM
Does not matter if it's in USD or Euros, I'd not go for that price. I'd rather trade in my current 550i for an used M5, and spend all changes for gas and chickas
I agree
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='372720' date='Jan 1 2007, 01:24 PM
WONDERFUL mod!
But there is only a problem : ?25.000
They are sons of bitch : on the M5 the same mod (on the V10, ten cilinders instead of 8) costs ?10.000 .
Right
I would recommend you amigo to use a clean language as regards in general.

Second you guys do not know what you get for that price furthermore for M5 it costs much more but forget prices! if you do not have the $$$ or ??? easy, do not buy it!


WHAT this has to do with a replacement engine at all? (replacement = is a modified engine...)

HAMANN SPORTKIT HM/M +60
Up to 60 hp / 44 kW power increase, approx. 54 Nm torque increase
V/max 300 - 320 km/h (depends on wheel/tire combination)
Including:
HAMANN Sport high-performance headers
HAMANN Sport high-performance catalysts
HAMANN Center tube kit
HAMANN Sport rear muffler with 4 tailpipes ( e ? 90mm )
HAMANN Sport air filter
HAMANN Optimized curve maps
HAMANN Deactivation of standard 250 km/h speed limit
Tires have to cope with higher maximum speed !

Replacements are only available for "older" E60 engines ex. 07/06. Thx.

But your commets contribute this time not much to this CLEAN Forums, without any offence. Do not forget that we all already paid a nice price for our cars, and we tend to forget that! So the price of a service consists of many things we, you and I may not know, but we are not forced to buy or like anybody or anything. That is called freedom.

Just stop blameing something you got no clue, thx. Have a nice evening mates
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='373273' date='Jan 3 2007, 08:52 PM
I would recommend you amigo to use a clean language as regards in general.


Do you prefer "Hamann = thiefs" ?


BTW .. You can say "amigo" to your mexican friends, not to me .


if you do not have the $$$ or ??? easy, do not buy it!
We don't have ??? or $$$, but only for Hamann .
(ah, there is also RD, beetwen thiefs : how can we forget RD ?)
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='373294' date='Jan 3 2007, 09:36 PM
Do you prefer "Hamann = thiefs" ?
BTW .. You can say "amigo" to your mexican friends, not to me .
We don't have ??? or $$$, but only for Hamann .
(ah, there is also RD, beetwen thiefs : how can we forget RD ?)
permesso amico do not speak Italiano true, and have some Mexican amigos, but they are not thiefs it is a company and their products are unique and NOT cheap as regards as quality! But shall we blame also Gucci or other brands while they cost more than an other, just do not buy them IMO if there is no budget for that.
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='373298' date='Jan 3 2007, 09:42 PM
it is a company and their products are unique and NOT cheap as regards as quality!

Ats, I can understand a price close to 10k, but 24 is simply crazy .
Stop .


ATS, why bring the M5 from 5000cc to 6000cc costs 10k, with ten cilinder instead of eight ?
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='373310' date='Jan 3 2007, 10:12 PM
Ats, I can understand a price close to 10k, but 24 is simply crazy .
Stop .
ATS, why bring the M5 from 5000cc to 6000cc costs 10k, with ten cilinder instead of eight ?
ok-o, all I said, is why judge a whole company on its price policy?! You see.

YOur question is good and now clean. That time in 2003-2004 the engine was way different. Furthermore they do NOT "drill" V10 engine of M5, however to make a perv. 07/06 engine from 530i to 3.3 L and from 545i to 5.2!!! it needs a lot of work. But you should talk to people who made that and they got a new car. (that time 550i was not available as it is only for one year out...) that explains all. pace.
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Hi ats77,

Thank you for the clarification that is why i posted this thread with "what is it?" From your description it certainly look like there's quite a alot of engineering thoughts behind their offering

Warmest regards to you and our E60 family as we forge ahead in 2007,

Van


Originally Posted by ats77' post='373273' date='Jan 3 2007, 11:52 AM
I would recommend you amigo to use a clean language as regards in general.

Second you guys do not know what you get for that price furthermore for M5 it costs much more but forget prices! if you do not have the $$$ or ??? easy, do not buy it!
WHAT this has to do with a replacement engine at all? (replacement = is a modified engine...)

HAMANN SPORTKIT HM/M +60
Up to 60 hp / 44 kW power increase, approx. 54 Nm torque increase
V/max 300 - 320 km/h (depends on wheel/tire combination)
Including:
HAMANN Sport high-performance headers
HAMANN Sport high-performance catalysts
HAMANN Center tube kit
HAMANN Sport rear muffler with 4 tailpipes ( e ? 90mm )
HAMANN Sport air filter
HAMANN Optimized curve maps
HAMANN Deactivation of standard 250 km/h speed limit
Tires have to cope with higher maximum speed !

Replacements are only available for "older" E60 engines ex. 07/06. Thx.

But your commets contribute this time not much to this CLEAN Forums, without any offence. Do not forget that we all already paid a nice price for our cars, and we tend to forget that! So the price of a service consists of many things we, you and I may not know, but we are not forced to buy or like anybody or anything. That is called freedom.

Just stop blameing something you got no clue, thx. Have a nice evening mates


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