craigm1841

they will never find their way back to the road. parts will be sold i believe, but that VIN will never be registered again. the scrap yards face a $15K fine per instance for any car that isnt destroyed in its entirety.

pgetsch

and repair/auto body shops get a hefty fine for turning back miles on a car

btw, ive gone over my miles on all my leases and have never payed a dime back to the dealer...

there is always a way

Howitzer

Don't you mean takes old cars off the road and people buy Hyundais, Subarus, and Toyotas? So much for stimulating the American manufacturing sector. Oh wait, WHAT American manufacturing sector? I forgot its dead. The only thing we produce now is debt.

craigm1841

here is the disposal facility form which outlines what you can do:

http://www.cars.gov/files/6265_DisposalFac...icationForm.pdf

...some parts can be salvaged, just not engine or drivetrain parts.

once the car is turned in for the "CARS" program, the information is reported to NMVTIS, therefore making the VIN # associated with that car ineligible for registration anywhere in the US. this is part of the process of the dealers receiving their rebates.

pjinca

Um, actually, my wife has a Subaru Tribeca and unlike most of the "American" cars - it's actually built here. Chevy Impala - built in Canada/ Ford Fusion - built in Mexico, whereas the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord (US spec), Nissan Altima/Maxima are all built here in the good ol' USofA. So kind takes the wid out of that argument.

craigm1841

that is very true, i think people get confused. yes the company is headquartered in a foreign country, designed and engineered there, but assembled and sold here. it does proved work for everyone from the assemblymen in the factories to the truck drivers transporting the vehicles to the the lot boy at the dealerships. this program unarguably stimulated the economy for the short term.

but at what cost?

btw, i still hate the program... i just figured, with all this political talk on the forums, we havent agreed on anything in a week or two. i wanted to take this opportunity to agree.

pjinca

I actually agree with you on this program, to an extent, the idea was a good one overall. The implementation is what is stupid. Used parts in good condition are invaluable to keeping good cars on the road. The fact the vehicles traded in are mandated to be destroyed (if that really happens) is stupid. When I was in High School I would've never kept a car running without a Pick-a-part nearby with readily available parts for me to use, as I said before - that is the definition of "recycling"

sos

Same happening over here guys :-(

Any car over 10 years old, that you've owned for a year or more, can be traded in against any new car with a ?2000 rebate.

Also similar happening in Germany with a 2500 EURO rebate and I expect a lot of other EU countries.

Our wonderful government is making out how wonderful it is, but it's our tax money they are using to fund it :-(

P.S. I love that red car, would fetch good money over here if it was in good condition.

dirksqjaw

Was there this much whining when we went into Iraq? Spent 700 Billion bailing out a few firms, who are now giving million dollar bonus' to their top employees, again? Just.. wow.

craigm1841

there was definately whining. i think at this point it keeps getting piled on and ENOUGH is ENOUGH. there was a TON of outrage about the execs bonus'.

it has gotten so bad that people HAVE to be fed up now. the massive spending has woken up the average American.

the current issues aren't even partisan issues anymore. liberals and the liberal media want to make conservatives out to be an "angry mob" when the truth is it is everyone regardless of political affiliation.

does anyone know why the second amendment really exists? it is not in place so you can collect guns. it was also not in place so you can keep it on your nightstand to protect yourself from a burglar.