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167 it is! And it's at my doorstep!!

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Old 01-23-2007, 06:52 PM
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awesome wheels.. you're ballin. enjoy.
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those look great! now jus some pics with them on ur car ...i wish i could get those for my xi :'(
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congrats. i used my old caps from my old wheels. now you need tires
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167's all the way! Wyhere did you get them and how much?
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Originally Posted by gpt' post='382787' date='Jan 24 2007, 12:09 PM
167's all the way! Wyhere did you get them and how much?
bmwwheels.com for 2200... the best price I can find. Someone found OEM on ebay for about 1800-1900 shipped.
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You know what I just realized? The offset of the rear 167s are different than 166s. I had always assumed them to be the same ET:28. 167s have a rear offset of ET:17 whereas 166s rear offset is ET:28. Based on this, I don't think that 12mm for 167s would work b/c it would cause the tires to rub against the fender liner. This is probably why brian1225 had to roll his fenders to accommodate the 12mm with his 167s.

OEM 167 specs:
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=...hg=36&fg=15

OEM 166 specs:
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=...hg=36&fg=15
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Brian is also running 285 tires. But I was thinking about running 10mm anyways.

Maybe I should run non at all? What do you think vegas?
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I'm no expert about offsets but here is what I think. Using the front wheels as a baseline, both 167 and 166s are identical (8.5 x 19 ET:12), it is what we are striving for since no spacers are needed for the front to be flushed with the fender.

The rear 166 have ET:28 offset which pushes the wheels inside. To bring the wheels back outside, you can use 10, 12, or 15mm. Here is the math: 28 - 10mm = ET:18, still a bit inside. 28 - 12mm = ET:16, okay. 28 - 15mm = ET:13, borderline. The 15mm spacers are the closest to matching the front 166 ET:12 offset. But, then you have to consider the width of the tire. 245/35/19 work fine with the ET:12 offset. 275/30/19 will cause rubbing issues with 15mm spacers, I believe.

Now, the rear 167 have ET:17 offset which is close to the front 167 ET:12. If you were to add 10mm, 17 - 10mm = ET:7. This combined with either 275 or 285 will cause some rubbing. 5mm spacers might be the way to go.

Please, anybody with knowledge of offset set me straight if I'm wrong, which I probably am.
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F*ck the offsets...get the R10s. hahaha

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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='382899' date='Jan 24 2007, 03:28 PM
I'm no expert about offsets but here is what I think. Using the front wheels as a baseline, both 167 and 166s are identical (8.5 x 19 ET:12), it is what we are striving for since no spacers are needed for the front to be flushed with the fender.

The rear 166 have ET:28 offset which pushes the wheels inside. To bring the wheels back outside, you can use 10, 12, or 15mm. Here is the math: 28 - 10mm = ET:18, still a bit inside. 28 - 12mm = ET:16, okay. 28 - 15mm = ET:13, borderline. The 15mm spacers are the closest to matching the front 166 ET:12 offset. But, then you have to consider the width of the tire. 245/35/19 work fine with the ET:12 offset. 275/30/19 will cause rubbing issues with 15mm spacers, I believe.

Now, the rear 167 have ET:17 offset which is close to the front 167 ET:12. If you were to add 10mm, 17 - 10mm = ET:7. This combined with either 275 or 285 will cause some rubbing. 5mm spacers might be the way to go.

Please, anybody with knowledge of offset set me straight if I'm wrong, which I probably am.
Haha, I'm so confused. Nick is running 15mm spacers, but he has 265 tires.



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