Didnt want to get involved this way because nothing gets resolved being a "KEYBOARD THUG" with all the back and forth . plus I also wanted to see what other people thoughts are (by the way you guys are ruthless j/k/). But let me make it up to all you % series forums members and lets dooo a group buy .. the first 5 people that sets a deposit for of 20" staggered monoblocks $3000 to your door . Only if you live in the u.s.a. any Rennen or Donz wheels available .. 4-6 weeks wait . and if your in the NY area please come down to see us April 29th to may first at the Jacob Javits center for the new york auto show . I will talk with you guys personally and show you our cars behind the velvet rope !!!