Desert530

Does anyone know if it is possible to replace the Business Navigation System with the Proffesional one? If so how much?

Also if it can be changed? what do they change? screen, computer, etc ......?

Advantages you will get by using Pro. over Business Navigation System:
-Voice commands
-Map navigation (not arrows)
-TV
-Play DVDs (by installing the DVD player beneath the in dash CD slot)
-Better utilization of screen space

there might be other issues involved that I don't know of.

jmcaiado

Hi, i'm upgrading today (car is at the dealer)
Prof Nav includes the CCC (Car Comunications Computer)
The CCC is a more versatile system and enables advanced future features such as web browsing.
The systems also has many auxiliary inputs that are not used for the moment, but will be.
When i have the time will post a complete description of the system taken from BMW TIS.
If you have option 6UA you can order the CCC conversion KIT wich is less expensive because you already payed for the Business system.
If not, you can still upgrade, but at a higher price.

Desert530

How much would it cost in Dollars if I had the 6UA option?

Iceman

TV requires the nav pro, but is another option. The upgrade to nav pro doesn't give you automatically a TV tuner, you have to get it also if you want to watch TV.
Playing movie DVD's is currently not possible on the DVD drive, but BMW is working on the implemantation of this feature and will therefore modify the software. As of now it looks like this softwar update will be released in October. BTW, the same software update will bring the ability to play MP3's. I assume that you have to have the TV tuner to play movie DVD's, but haven't heared this as a confirmed fact through BMW yet.

Beemer

Jmcaiado, are you absolutely sure that Prof. Nav. can be fitted without 6UA and if so do you happen to know the price of such conversion?

I have the Business System, but I don?t have 6UA prep. for Nav. Prof. because it wasn?t available for the earliest cars (06/2003 production)

jmcaiado

The US TIS bulettin says they can not charge you more than 1800USD

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This Service Information bulletin supersedes Advance S.I. B84 10 04 dated June 2004.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
CCC (Car Communication Computer) Navigation Retrofit Kit


MODEL
E60 (5 Series) with CCC pre-wiring (option 6UA).


SITUATION
NOTE: CCC retrofitting is only possible if the vehicle has option 6UA (Pre-wiring for CCC) installed.

NOTE: If the customer requests that the Navigation retrofit be installed, they are not be charged more than $1,800.00 in total.

Warranty is to be charged for the Labor and the color specific cover, center dashboard trim panel.

Please also refer to the Sales Bulletin.

INFORMATION
Contents of the CCC Retrofit Kit.

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A CCC with In-dash CD drive
B 8.8" Control Display
C LVDS Cable
D Menu/Speech button (Not included in the CCC Retrofit Kit. If necessary order separately)
E Protective strip
F Cover, center dashboard trim panel* (Not included in the CCC Retrofit Kit)
G Clip
H Screw
I Tie wrap
J Road Map DVD* (Not included in the CCC Retrofit Kit)
* Has to be ordered separately.

PROCEDURE
Important: Before doing the Installation, update the complete vehicle with CIP12.0 or a more recent CIP version.

Connect the vehicle to an approved BMW battery charger.

Using DISplus/GT1/SSS, with the diagnostic head connected to the vehicle, select Coding/Programming. Refer to SIB09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization and Programming) Procedure B for any necessary coding and programming. Note that CIP will automatically reprogram all programmable control units that do not have the latest software.

Disconnect the DISplus/GT1/SSS after the update is finished and no additional work has to be done

Install the CCC retrofit parts, please refer to the Installation Instruction P/N 01 29 0 394 108 in ASAP on the CenterNet website.

Reconnect the vehicle battery.

Connect the vehicle to an approved BMW battery charger.

Using DISplus/GT1/SSS, with the diagnostic head connected to the vehicle, select Coding/Programming. Refer to SIB09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization and Programming) section "Retrofits".

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

65 90 0 390 844
CCC Retrofit/Conversion Kit US
1

99 00 0 390 203
Road Map DVD
1*

65 82 6 921 669
Menu/Speech button
If necessary

51 45 7 063 152
**Cover center dashboard trim panel, black
1

51 45 7 063 153
**Cover center dashboard trim panel, gray
1

51 45 7 063 154
**Cover center dashboard trim panel, beige
1

51 45 7 063 155
**Cover center dashboard trim panel, brown
1

* Has to be ordered separately.

** dependent on the interior color. Has to be claimed under warranty.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Warranty claims can only be submitted until May 31, 2005.

Defect Code
65 83 91 23 00


Labor Operation:
CCC Retrofitting and programming

the control units


Labor Operation
Labor Allowance

00 54 284
FRU 25


+00 54 983
FRU 23


Parts Allowance:
Cover, center dashboard trim panel
Quantity (1)

Part number depends on interior color


Labor Operation:
CCC Retrofitting and programming

the control units (including CAS)


Labor Operation
Labor Allowance

00 54 285
FRU 27


+00 54 984
FRU 26


Parts Allowance:
Cover, center dashboard trim panel
Quantity (1)

Part number depends on interior color

Note:The following explanations will spell out the correct use of the work times.

Main Work:
Use this labor operation number when the only repair performed is the listed warranty repair.


OR


+Associated Work:
Use this labor operation number when other repairs or services are performed along with the listed warranty repair.
Under no circumstances should both labor operation numbers be claimed. Attempts to claim both times will result in an unnecessary delay in claim processing and payment.

WARRANTY PART RETURN INFORMATION
A part tag and the credit note will advise you to return the cover, center dashboard trim panel.

We do not need this part but must receive the 6.5" control display and the M-ASK control module.

The M-ASK and the 6.5" control display were removed from the vehicle to permit installation of the NAV Retrofit Kit.

Please attach the part tag for the cover dashboard trim panel to the box containing the 6.5" control display and the M-ASK.

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Place the removed 6.5" control display in the box in which the new 8.5" board monitor was supplied (1).

Place the removed M-ASK in the box in which the CCC was supplied (2).

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1. Place the box containing the removed 6.5" control display (1) and the box containing the removed M-ASK (2) in the large box in which the kit was supplied (3).
When requested by BMW NA, ship the removed components to BMW WPRC using the regular parts return procedure.




ATTACHMENTS
view PDF attachment B841004SalesBulletin.
view PDF attachment B841004InstallInstr.
[ Copyright ? 2004 BMW of North America, LLC ]

Tuga

jmcaiado,

I'm considering doing the upgrade if possible.
Is it possible? I don't have navigation system installed.
My car is 28th April production.
If it's possible say something.
Are you doing you work in Faro?
How much for it?

NickP

For the US, BMW NA takes the costs (e.g. no more than 1800USD) as a warranty claim. Not every region may be as forgiving!

jmcaiado

Hi, that's the only reason because i don?t have one of the first E60's !
I had to wait until option 6UA was available and the wait almost killed me
I can't see why the CCC couldn?t be installed in any E60. It's a question of $$$, i think !

Desert530

jmcaiado, thank you so much. The information you gave me is very helpful, now let's hope I have option 6UA.

It would be great if you can give me you opinion on my bluetooth issue I posted here http://e60.doit.wisc.edu/forums/index.php?...opic=1581&st=45