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05-12-2005, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MTRHEAD' date='May 12 2005, 10:58 AM
wow, thanks stream and others, 4 months of ownership and I never realised that trick with cancelling the indicators. That will teach me to RTFM
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05-12-2005, 02:51 PM
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I think (and hope) that this will become the new standard. The only reason the old way worked the way it did was due to the mechanical nature of the stalk operation. The old way to turn off the signal was to have a mechanical interface with the steering wheel to return the stalk to center. That was a very complex system of springs, gears, lever, or whatever. Now, the stalk returns to center right away and there's an electronic sensor that cancels the signal from blinking. I like it and am actually annoyed now when I have to reach a larger distance for a stalk to cancel an errant signal. I even like the placement of the stalk. Ten o'clock is much better than nine o'clock in terms of ergonomics.
Sure, it's different. Sure change can be hard to adapt to. I enjoy progress and am happy that BMW had the balls to break the tradition and move forward. It's the same argument as iDrive. Soon all cars will use a similar system because it makes sense -- maybe not at first, but eventually it will become standard...
Sure, it's different. Sure change can be hard to adapt to. I enjoy progress and am happy that BMW had the balls to break the tradition and move forward. It's the same argument as iDrive. Soon all cars will use a similar system because it makes sense -- maybe not at first, but eventually it will become standard...
05-12-2005, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by urbo73' date='May 12 2005, 01:11 PM
[quote name='Rudy' date='May 11 2005, 11:49 PM']As explained above, the trick to canceling it on the E60 is to move the lever in the SAME direction as the indicator is blinking -- in other words, the opposite of what everyone is used to.
Once you get used to this new way, it actually makes more sense and works fine.
Once you get used to this new way, it actually makes more sense and works fine.
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Maybe they can switch the gas pedal and brake pedal too. Put the gas pedal in the middle... Then we will be original....
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[/quote]About 40 years ago, they started getting rid of the third pedal. Good job you weren't driving then.
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Originally Posted by Rudy' date='May 12 2005, 03:51 PM
I think (and hope) that this will become the new standard.? The only reason the old way worked the way it did was due to the mechanical nature of the stalk operation.? The old way to turn off the signal was to have a mechanical interface with the steering wheel to return the stalk to center.? That was a very complex system of springs, gears, lever, or whatever.? Now, the stalk returns to center right away and there's an electronic sensor that cancels the signal from blinking.? I like it and am actually annoyed now when I have to reach a larger distance for a stalk to cancel an errant signal.? I even like the placement of the stalk.? Ten o'clock is much better than nine o'clock in terms of ergonomics.
Sure, it's different.? Sure change can be hard to adapt to.? I enjoy progress and am happy that BMW had the balls to break the tradition and move forward.? It's the same argument as iDrive.? Soon all cars will use a similar system because it makes sense -- maybe not at first, but eventually it will become standard...
Sure, it's different.? Sure change can be hard to adapt to.? I enjoy progress and am happy that BMW had the balls to break the tradition and move forward.? It's the same argument as iDrive.? Soon all cars will use a similar system because it makes sense -- maybe not at first, but eventually it will become standard...
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05-13-2005, 03:23 AM
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It's just another example of BMW creating a solution to a problem that didn't exist.
05-13-2005, 06:01 AM
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How about BMW refining and improving something that hasn't been touched in 60 years -- the problem existed, but nobody knew it...
05-13-2005, 06:04 AM
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Nope - even I can't buy that. I'm coming to BMW soon from Porsche and LOVE the gadgets that BMW provide (found the MMI in Audi a bit too primitive on a recent test drive) but even I struggle with justification for the indicators....
05-13-2005, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by orient5' date='May 11 2005, 08:29 PM
you can go to idrive and switch off this 3-click function. the indicator will then operate just like a normal car's.
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05-13-2005, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by phototalk123' date='May 11 2005, 10:23 PM
hum. if a iDrive contain the code that controls the blinker, maybe we should send a reqeust to BMW say, let's let the user to have "variable" function for the blinker.
User can decide how many clicks they want. Since it is control by iDrive, it should be easy to modify via firmware.
User can decide how many clicks they want. Since it is control by iDrive, it should be easy to modify via firmware.
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Originally Posted by Magneto' date='May 12 2005, 09:58 AM
You know, if we're going to bother modifying I-Drive to allow selecting the 'number of blinks', maybe we should go a little further.? I'm thinking that on US cars a "Florida Retiree" option might be useful.? If selected the right turn blinker would be permanently on.? 
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My wife's Lincoln has a neat feature. After a few blinks, the blinker starts clicking louder and louder. Eventually it will drown out Credence or whatever going in the CD.
