E60 Discussion Anything and everything to do with the E60 5 Series. All are welcome!

Torx bolts for zf oil pan

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 04:50 AM
  #1  
mwaku's Avatar
Thread Starter
New Members
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Australia
My Ride: BMW E60 530i
Default Torx bolts for zf oil pan

what size are they?

Can you buy any that are generic, rather than from bmw?
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 07:10 AM
  #2  
KyleB's Avatar
Members
Senior Members
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,539
Likes: 11
From: Tampa Bay, FL
My Ride: 530i
Model Year: 2004
Engine: M54
Default

I certainly wouldn't use off the shelf bolts from say, Home Depot. I didn't measure them, but they are tapered at the ends.

Get the right ones from BMW or a ZF supplier. They're securing the pan for a $5000 transmission. A set of the correct bolts from thectsc is around $25. Not a gamble worth taking IMO.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 11:05 AM
  #3  
turboawd's Avatar
Senior Members
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 0
My Ride: 2006 BMW 550i
Default

it will be hard to find bolts with a big head, but i suppose you could use a washer too. i'm sure its just a standard metric thread. use galvanized or stainless bolts so they dont seize in the aluminum. although i would just buy them from bmw. lol
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 05:29 PM
  #4  
KyleB's Avatar
Members
Senior Members
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,539
Likes: 11
From: Tampa Bay, FL
My Ride: 530i
Model Year: 2004
Engine: M54
Default

Originally Posted by turboawd
it will be hard to find bolts with a big head, but i suppose you could use a washer too. i'm sure its just a standard metric thread. use galvanized or stainless bolts so they dont seize in the aluminum. although i would just buy them from bmw. lol
I'm sure they are, though I have no idea what the length and pitch are on those things.

But just like you said, why go through all of that work when BMW has them at the parts counter and thectsc.com will ship them right to your door in about 3 days?
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2014 | 10:58 PM
  #5  
mwaku's Avatar
Thread Starter
New Members
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Australia
My Ride: BMW E60 530i
Default

True, I'm just doing the service soon and I'm from Australia, and from recent transactions, it's taken 2 weeks to get things from the US (namely eBays new shipping thing they have -- I get things from China DHL faster..)

But yeah.
• What are the chances of me stripping a bolt when taking the pan off?
• Are they the same bolts for the mechatronic unit?? If not, what bolts are these? Or will I not need them
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:55 AM
  #6  
KyleB's Avatar
Members
Senior Members
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,539
Likes: 11
From: Tampa Bay, FL
My Ride: 530i
Model Year: 2004
Engine: M54
Default

Originally Posted by mwaku
True, I'm just doing the service soon and I'm from Australia, and from recent transactions, it's taken 2 weeks to get things from the US (namely eBays new shipping thing they have -- I get things from China DHL faster..)

But yeah.
• What are the chances of me stripping a bolt when taking the pan off?
• Are they the same bolts for the mechatronic unit?? If not, what bolts are these? Or will I not need them

-as long as you work on the car when it's stone cold, and don't use air tools, its unlikely youll strip anything

-you wont need them, just reuse what comes off of the mechatronic
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2014 | 10:25 AM
  #7  
dingolfing's Avatar
Members
Senior Members
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 8
From: Baton Rouge, LA
My Ride: 2008 550i
Model Year: 2008
Default

If you have an early build E60, the pans used T27 torx bolts, which strip very easily. As a result, later builds used T40 torx bolts. Both bolts have the same large surface area mounting head, just different torx size holes.

Last edited by dingolfing; Jun 9, 2014 at 03:29 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:26 PM
  #8  
rt2jesus's Avatar
New Members
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: michigan
My Ride: 2006 525i
Default

I searched the forum to find the spec of the bolt just in case that my vehicle uses the old T27 bolts. Luckily, mine uses new T40 bolts. But I already ordered the bolts from McMaster at much loser price. I also ordered pretty wide washers as well. you can see the screen capture. The first and the last should be bolts and washers. You may want to use at your own judgement.
Torx bolts for zf oil pan-bolt-spec.jpg
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2014 | 02:28 PM
  #9  
rt2jesus's Avatar
New Members
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: michigan
My Ride: 2006 525i
Default

Originally Posted by rt2jesus
I searched the forum to find the spec of the bolt just in case that my vehicle uses the old T27 bolts. Luckily, mine uses new T40 bolts. But I already ordered the bolts from McMaster at much loser price. I also ordered pretty wide washers as well. you can see the screen capture. The first and the last should be bolts and washers. You may want to use at your own judgement.
Attachment 145505
94500A240 1 Pack Type 316 Ss Button-head Socket Cap Screw, M6 Size, 30 Mm Long, 1.0 Mm Pitch
95211A160 1 Pack Metric Type 316 Ss Large-diameter Flat Washer, M6 Screw Size, 18mm Od, 1.4mm-1.8mm Thick

Picture was not uploaded correctly.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2014 | 02:05 AM
  #10  
mwaku's Avatar
Thread Starter
New Members
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Australia
My Ride: BMW E60 530i
Default

Hmmm your pic has 4 items/ What are the other two?

So you use the button head socket screws with the washer??
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:03 AM.