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Old 12-19-2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gwf545' post='369157' date='Dec 19 2006, 01:20 PM
I could not disagree more! I've had both Dunflops and Bridgestone's on my 545 and although the Bridgestones were better, they both rode hard and eventually became noisey. The PS2's have entirely changed the demeanor of my car. I do not know how to better explain the difference they have made in ride and overall driveability. Unless you have lived for some time with both, you will never understand the differences and how much better the PS2's are.

I AGREE A TRILLION PERCENT
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Old 12-19-2006 | 09:31 AM
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Can you put non-runflat tires on runflat wheels?
Old 12-19-2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cflm3' post='369166' date='Dec 19 2006, 01:31 PM
Can you put non-runflat tires on runflat wheels?

YES!!!
Old 12-19-2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cflm3' post='369166' date='Dec 19 2006, 08:31 PM
Can you put non-runflat tires on runflat wheels?

Yes you can and also vice versa.

I have Dunlop RF's (245/40 18") in the summer and they are OK on nice roads,
like newly asphalted ones, but on bad roads (normal overhere) the are hard,
noicy and has a tendency to tramlining.

In winter I drive with Conti non RF's (225/55 16").
They are a bit soft for the handling but fully noiceless and very confy on that ever road.
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Originally Posted by Biff Malibu' post='368660' date='Dec 18 2006, 03:02 PM
Ok, I read a lot of complaints about the run flats. I have the original Continental run flats on my 530i, and will need to replace them soon. The tires I have now seem fine to me. They handle well, aren't noisy, and ride just fine. Or do I not know any better since they are the only tires I have used on this car? I really like the idea of run flats for safety and getting to work on time, are regular tires much better? Recomendations from anyone here in the U.S. ? How bout Michelins? Thanks, I'm confused!
Don't know about Michelins, but I changed from Bridgestone Runflats to Pirelli P-Zero Rosso non-RFT tyres. They are so much smoother and quieter on the coarse surfaces here in the U.K. Grip and handling are well up to the job as well. The only area the RFTs seem to beat the normal tyres (apart from the obvious running flat) is in steering response. The super-stiff sidewalls seem to give a much sharper feel to the steering. Tramlining? A thing of the past when you convert to non-RFTs.

Something that never seems to rate a mention is that if you do get a puncture on a run-flat, it can't be repaired. I had a slow puncture on one of my Bridgestones and the tyre shop (part of a national chain) told me they couldn't do any repairs to RFTs because they couldn't tell how many miles they'd actually done running flat. They are only supposed to run up to 100 miles. So if you get a puncture 300 miles from home in the middle of the night - well you get the picture. I'm happy they're gone and I've got a spare wheel.
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Originally Posted by gwf545' post='369157' date='Dec 19 2006, 10:20 AM
I could not disagree more! I've had both Dunflops and Bridgestone's on my 545 and although the Bridgestones were better, they both rode hard and eventually became noisey. The PS2's have entirely changed the demeanor of my car. I do not know how to better explain the difference they have made in ride and overall driveability. Unless you have lived for some time with both, you will never understand the differences and how much better the PS2's are.
Did 20K+ miles on the runflats and about 10-15K miles on the PS2s so far. The PS2s may ride smoother, but I honestly never found the ride on the runflats to be objectionable. Also the PS2s may have more overall grip, but for regular day to day driving I don't think there is an advantage. Mind you I think the PS2s may be the best all around street tire, it's just that I don't think the runflats are that bad. Surely they are not the terrible tire that everyone describes them to be.
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Originally Posted by heezy545i' post='369294' date='Dec 19 2006, 06:47 PM
Did 20K+ miles on the runflats and about 10-15K miles on the PS2s so far. The PS2s may ride smoother, but I honestly never found the ride on the runflats to be objectionable. Also the PS2s may have more overall grip, but for regular day to day driving I don't think there is an advantage. Mind you I think the PS2s may be the best all around street tire, it's just that I don't think the runflats are that bad. Surely they are not the terrible tire that everyone describes them to be.
Do you have standard or sport suspension? I have sport and to me the difference in ride is substantial.
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Originally Posted by gwf545' post='369559' date='Dec 20 2006, 01:52 PM
Do you have standard or sport suspension? I have sport and to me the difference in ride is substantial.
Yea, me too.
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Can't comment on my E60, as I still have the original Continentals, but I switched to the Michelin PS2 A/S (all season) on my 325i and got 35K out of my first set. Wonderful to drive compared to original Continentals there also, and more importantly felt good in the heavy rains of Texas. Low noise level too, even though the tread looks heavy duty.

Just put my new set on the E46 and I got them at NTB mounted, balanced, road hazard, etc, for about $900. If you get a quote off of Tire Rack, they will match it, or at least come close. I got about $100 of list at NTB doing this.
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Originally Posted by gwf545' post='369559' date='Dec 20 2006, 10:52 AM
Do you have standard or sport suspension? I have sport and to me the difference in ride is substantial.
I have the sports package.

Do you find the ride with the e60 even with the PS2s to be comparatively harsher than past cars you've driven?


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