Technology for Lane Departure Warning
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As I researched what options to order, I had thought I understood the LDW system relied on a camera mounted front somewhere that could identify the white lines dividing lanes... Then a few days ago I remember reading a post here, a critique of an article in Roundel reviewing the 5 series, and among the criticisms was the author's limited or erroneous understanding of the 5's technology. One of the examples was noting the LDW relies on a radar reflection from an emitter on the front side of the rear-view mirror...
I can't find that thread now (I think it was a few months back, I think referencing an 10/07 issue of Roundel), but I wonder if someone can strainten me out on this, radar or camera? Here's an excerpt from bmwusa.com's "innovation" pages on LDW:
"Lane Departure Warning
Invaluable when driving long distances - especially at night, when drowsiness can easily set in - BMW's optional new Lane Departure Warning* feature warns the driver of an improper lane-changing maneuver. Using a camera to detect painted lines in the road, this feature discreetly vibrates the steering wheel whenever you change lanes or drift across the roadway without first using your directional signal. (Optional; requires Premium Package in the 528i/528xi and 535i/535xi)."
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I can't find that thread now (I think it was a few months back, I think referencing an 10/07 issue of Roundel), but I wonder if someone can strainten me out on this, radar or camera? Here's an excerpt from bmwusa.com's "innovation" pages on LDW:
"Lane Departure Warning
Invaluable when driving long distances - especially at night, when drowsiness can easily set in - BMW's optional new Lane Departure Warning* feature warns the driver of an improper lane-changing maneuver. Using a camera to detect painted lines in the road, this feature discreetly vibrates the steering wheel whenever you change lanes or drift across the roadway without first using your directional signal. (Optional; requires Premium Package in the 528i/528xi and 535i/535xi)."
Thanks in advance,
Cal
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Originally Posted by calpalmer' post='523557' date='Jan 27 2008, 06:28 PM
As I researched what options to order, I had thought I understood the LDW system relied on a camera mounted front somewhere that could identify the white lines dividing lanes... Then a few days ago I remember reading a post here, a critique of an article in Roundel reviewing the 5 series, and among the criticisms was the author's limited or erroneous understanding of the 5's technology. One of the examples was noting the LDW relies on a radar reflection from an emitter on the front side of the rear-view mirror...
I can't find that thread now (I think it was a few months back, I think referencing an 10/07 issue of Roundel), but I wonder if someone can strainten me out on this, radar or camera? Here's an excerpt from bmwusa.com's "innovation" pages on LDW:
"Lane Departure Warning
Invaluable when driving long distances - especially at night, when drowsiness can easily set in - BMW's optional new Lane Departure Warning* feature warns the driver of an improper lane-changing maneuver. Using a camera to detect painted lines in the road, this feature discreetly vibrates the steering wheel whenever you change lanes or drift across the roadway without first using your directional signal. (Optional; requires Premium Package in the 528i/528xi and 535i/535xi)."
Thanks in advance,
Cal
I can't find that thread now (I think it was a few months back, I think referencing an 10/07 issue of Roundel), but I wonder if someone can strainten me out on this, radar or camera? Here's an excerpt from bmwusa.com's "innovation" pages on LDW:
"Lane Departure Warning
Invaluable when driving long distances - especially at night, when drowsiness can easily set in - BMW's optional new Lane Departure Warning* feature warns the driver of an improper lane-changing maneuver. Using a camera to detect painted lines in the road, this feature discreetly vibrates the steering wheel whenever you change lanes or drift across the roadway without first using your directional signal. (Optional; requires Premium Package in the 528i/528xi and 535i/535xi)."
Thanks in advance,
Cal
BTW, on the interstate, it will force you to use turn signals to change lanes or it will vibrate at you. Turn signals disable it for 5 seconds (I think).
One other note. You can enable a display of the sensor setting in the HUD but its a distraction so I turned it off. The "lane lines and arrows" display in the gauge cluster is enough to show you when its active (which is anytime over 40mph). I think you can also set the activation speed but 40 seems fine.
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Thanks, that's what I would have guessed also. Not being a techie all that much, I was having trouble figuring how radar reflections would distinguish between painted lines and the rest of the surface. Thanks Richard,
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Richard is correct -- the LDW camera is located next to the rain sensor in the windshield (behind the rear view mirror area.) In this location, the wiper sweeps past it and helps to maintain a clean lens...
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Originally Posted by Richard in NC' post='523563' date='Jan 27 2008, 04:03 PM
I'm thinking camera. I have 2 lenses in the rain sensing area of the windshield.
Ya I think thats right too... its an extra camera near the rear view mirror location that scans for the lines...
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I understand that some people actually turns this fearure off as it can be a nuisance ?? What do the members that have it feel about that. I think it would very useful on highway driving over long distances with the possibility of driver fatique, but on a daily urban commute or casual driving I can see why some would nix it ............... ??
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Originally Posted by westcoast550' post='523642' date='Jan 27 2008, 11:22 PM
I understand that some people actually turns this fearure off as it can be a nuisance ?? What do the members that have it feel about that. I think it would very useful on highway driving over long distances with the possibility of driver fatique, but on a daily urban commute or casual driving I can see why some would nix it ............... ??
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In my opinion, BMW wasted a perfectly good steering wheel button on this feature. They should have made it switchable in iDrive or some other dashboard switch. They could have swapped the night vision button for the lane deviation button since I find a steering wheel button for night vision is pretty much a mandatory thing...
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='523633' date='Jan 28 2008, 04:03 AM
Ya I think thats right too... its an extra camera near the rear view mirror location that scans for the lines...
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Originally Posted by artc' post='523779' date='Jan 28 2008, 06:23 AM
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I thought there was an extra camera in the front air intake below the grill??? See attached photo - it is clearly visible, almost like a 3rd fog light ....
I thought there was an extra camera in the front air intake below the grill??? See attached photo - it is clearly visible, almost like a 3rd fog light ....
I may be wrong on this, but I thought that was the Far InfraRed camera for the Night Vision?
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Originally Posted by artc' post='523779' date='Jan 28 2008, 09:23 AM
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I thought there was an extra camera in the front air intake below the grill??? See attached photo - it is clearly visible, almost like a 3rd fog light ....
I thought there was an extra camera in the front air intake below the grill??? See attached photo - it is clearly visible, almost like a 3rd fog light ....
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Night Vision camera: