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Old 10-10-2012 | 11:19 AM
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Those of you who replaced the gasket, did you also replace the weatherstrip? I have found the gasket for $50 and the weatherstrip for $26. Would like to know where those found the gasket for $35 - $40.
Old 10-10-2012 | 03:05 PM
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Curious...For those of you that replaced your seals and claim the ride is quiet afterwards with the shade open...Did the seal look bad in the first place?

My seals look virtually perfect. Nice and tight. No water leaks. However if I open the shade I can hear "wind" noise, and closing it is silent. However I don't feel any wind when trying to feel around the outside edge of the glass. I'm thinking it's normal for the car and you would hear a similar noise level change if you drive around with the inside of a door panel taken off and put back on.

One thing I'll test out then is to tape up around the seals on the outside to confirm this.
Old 10-10-2012 | 03:36 PM
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In my case I noticed the wind noise with the shade pulled back. The seal looked fine to me. After getting the new seal the old seal did not look and FEEL the same a very big difference. The old seal felt much harder than the new one. Once I replaced it, and if you closed your eyes you can not tell if the shade is open or closed so no more noise. Should have done this much sooner!
Old 10-10-2012 | 04:49 PM
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This is the SIB:

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B54 04 09 dated August 2009.
designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Wind Noise or Water Leak from the Sunroof

MODEL
E53 (X5)
E60, E61 (5 Series) produced up to 11/2008
E65, E66 (7 Series)
E70 (X5) produced up to 3/2009
F01, F02 (7 Series) produced up to 12/2008
E71 (X6) produced up to 3/2009
E83 (X3) produced up to 6/2009
E91 (3 Series Sports Wagon) produced up to 3/2009

SITUATION
A wind noise or water leak may be present due to an insufficient seal between the sunroof glass panels and the
perimeter seal. This insufficient seal typically takes a year or longer to cause any noticeable problems.

CAUSE
The hollow/bulb-style seal has taken a permanent set in the compressed position.
The seal material has started to deteriorate over time.

CORRECTION
Replace the seal using an updated part, which utilizes a different material with improved durability. In addition,
the geometry of the seal has been optimized for improved sealing.
In conjunction with this new style seal, some vehicles may requite a coding update to avoid future problems
pertaining to the anti-trap protection being activated when no obstruction is present.

PROCEDURE
Replace the perimeter seal per Repair 1. Instruction REP 54 13 055.
2. E60 and E61 vehicles produced up to 11/2008:
Program the vehicle using ISTA/P 2.31.2 or later.
E70 and E71 vehicles produced up to 3/2009:
Program the vehicle using ISTA/P 2.33.0 or later.
1 of 2
E83 vehicles produced up to 6/2009:
Program the vehicle using ISTA/P 2.34.0 or later.
E91 vehicles produced up to 3/2009:
Program the vehicle using ISTA/P 2.33.0 or later.
E53 – No updates are required when fitting the updated seal to this vehicle.
Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the
latest software.
For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service /
Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming.
Other models covered by this Service Information do not require a coding update.
Initialize the sunroof per Repair Instruction RA 54 0... and then operate it several times to ensure
that it does not activate anti-trap protection. If anti-trap protection is activated, ensure that the perimeter
seal is properly installed and readjust the glass panels. This situation is quite rare.
3.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number Description Quantity
54 10 7 245 551 Perimeter seal – standard size sunroof 1
54 10 7 199 533 Perimeter seal – panoramic sunroof 1

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code: 54 12 20 01 00
Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description:
54 12 117* Refer to KSD Replacing seal for glass sunroof lid
Refer to KSD Refer to KSD Program and code control modules
*Main Work - use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed,
or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this
is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
In cases where ISTA requires the replacement of control modules or additional programming because certain
control modules failed to program correctly, print out the Measures Plan and Final Report and attach these
reports to the RO in the vehicle file. This additional work should be claimed under the defect code listed in this
bulletin, using the labor operation and labor allowance from the KSD.
Old 10-10-2012 | 04:51 PM
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I just had this done to my 2005 545i and it's a MAJOR difference with respect to wind noise. It's just a quiet with or without the shade.
Old 10-11-2012 | 02:00 AM
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Schlooky - Here you go. SIB are ok, but there always seems to be limited info in them assuming we all can fill in the gaps and assumed information... It mentions if the roof doesn't close to adjust the glass. I am curious if anyone has actually loosened bolts to do this? Maybe this is the case for extreme cases, but there is another way.
https://5series.net/forums/e60-parts...cement-122541/
Old 10-12-2012 | 07:58 AM
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part number? 54107245551
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