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Old 10-20-2008, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='695546' date='Oct 17 2008, 04:47 PM
You wrote your own answer;
hub centric wheels can be close to impossible to balance.
Never heard of Nitto tires neither.

This is why I always go with OEM wheels and quality tires.
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where is the vibration comming from steering wheel or seat of the pants? steering wheel indicates front wheels seat of the pants indicates rear.

Also could be a bent rim or bad rotor. i would find a old skilled mechanic with one the those old machines that slide under the tire and balance them on the car.

Why very hard to find these guys anymore we have one in Va and I used to use him to balance my wheels on my 240 sx no matter what tire or rim was on the car had a vibration in the steering wheel, balanced on the car and worked great
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Originally Posted by DLRocket' post='695394' date='Oct 17 2008, 02:38 AM
I bought a CPO 2004 530i, prem and sport package over a year ago. From the get go the car had a vibration, mostly in the seats. After multiple trips to the dealer, Road Force balancing, 2 new oe 18" rims, I lived with it thinking that it was the run flats. Well my wife ran the car on the freeway with a flat and blew the inner side out of a tire and ruined a rim..... I was excited because I was not only going to get rid of the run flats but for the cost of one a new oe rim and 2 new Bridgestone run flats I could go to 20's on new rims. My buddy is in the business and we ordered up a set of Helo rims with the hub centric rings and Nitto tires. I had them Road force blanced. The rims and tires came in well with in the limits..... My car still frickin vibrates and I want to scream. The suspension has been checked by the dealer on multiple times and all is good. The vibration comes and goes but what is weird is that it seems that after some small bumps or road imperfections it seems to get worse. Control arms, all bushings, shocks and wheel bearings check out fine. I have read through a search on "vibrations" and see that there are some cars out there with similar symptoms but have not read any cures. Any help would be greatly appreciated. One positive note..... the 20's ride way better than the 18" run flats.

I purchased a '04 CPO now have 65K on it. I had a vibration that came from two places. 1. rotors on front 2. thrust bushings

Apparently thrust bushings are common to wear at that mileage and one idication is a vibration at above 45mph and exacerbated when applying brakes. Both thrust bushings and rotors replaced took care of my problem.

Also can you respond back with how many weights you see on each rim? Are they adhesive or rim weights? I am curious on the compensation amounts.
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='695666' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:36 AM
1) If so, did you test drive it?......and why buy an obviously problem car.?
2) Now that you are in the mess, does the car vibrate at all speeds.
3) If the answer to 2 is yes.....it's likely not the wheels at all.
The freeway roads around the dealer are concrete. I live 45 miles away and near my home there are good roads. From day one the dealer has tried to fix it but they can't experience the problem because they would have to drive far. The car starts vibating after 60 and does it 50% of the time....... sometimes on the same stretch of road it's fine somtimes it vibrates.
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Originally Posted by anand_rahim' post='695669' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:39 AM
You're problem is probably the hub centric rings. I've spoken with a couple of tire dealers and they all say you'll never be able to balance out wheels with hubcentric rings. If you can balance it, the balance wont hold for very long either way.
The dealer replaced 2 of the 18" OE wheels early on as well as put another complete set of OE wheels and tires. They have also road force balanced the wheels and tires many times. They also insist that all suspension components are fine.
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Originally Posted by meatzorb' post='698695' date='Oct 21 2008, 04:44 AM
I purchased a '04 CPO now have 65K on it. I had a vibration that came from two places. 1. rotors on front 2. thrust bushings

Apparently thrust bushings are common to wear at that mileage and one idication is a vibration at above 45mph and exacerbated when applying brakes. Both thrust bushings and rotors replaced took care of my problem.

Also can you respond back with how many weights you see on each rim? Are they adhesive or rim weights? I am curious on the compensation amounts.
I have not replced the rotors and do not have vibration when braking. Adhesive weights and there seems to be an average of 10 per wheel.
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Originally Posted by DLRocket' post='703923' date='Oct 26 2008, 12:45 PM
I have not replced the rotors and do not have vibration when braking. Adhesive weights and there seems to be an average of 10 per wheel.
Since the car is a CPO, I'd just tell the dealer to fix it whatever it takes, and tell 'em you are not picking the car back until its fixed. They will quickly find the source of the problem.
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Originally Posted by DLRocket' post='703923' date='Oct 26 2008, 01:45 PM
I have not replced the rotors and do not have vibration when braking. Adhesive weights and there seems to be an average of 10 per wheel.
Seems like a lot of weights, must be a long line of them. I like the BMW weights that come in various weights classes. You may be able to change and reduce the # to 2 or 3 weights.

I have read your post and think that you are saying that you can consistently duplicate, but at above 60 and that it may not happen all the time, just depends on road and length of drive time.

Question: at 60mph or so and the car is smooth driving, accelerate hard and coast back to starting mph. Does the vibration kick in, become worse or goes away or no-change.

Before my thrust bushings were changed I did notice that on a hard accelleration that I would sometimes pick up a vibration. It has not happened since having the thrust bushings replaced. The bushings themselves are not expensive, like 100 bucks for the set. Its the labor, like 4 hours.

I hate vibrations and I have gone to great lengths to eliminate in past cars and current 545i.

have they dismounted your tires to ensure no object is inside or that condensation hasn't built up from a bad water separtor from a air compressor?
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='695546' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:47 AM
You wrote your own answer;
hub centric wheels can be close to impossible to balance.
Never heard of Nitto tires neither.

This is why I always go with OEM wheels and quality tires.
Just for the record...Nitto tires are great. I have pirellis but I had them on a previous car.
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='695546' date='Oct 17 2008, 10:47 AM
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Never heard of Nitto tires neither.

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You've never heard of Nitto tires?? They're quite popular. But they're known mostly for drag radials and track tires.


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