Sold the e60 for a lexus is350...
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The decision to buy a particular car, if price is not a factor, all comes down to what you value most in a car. If you value soft leather, an awesome sound system and great reliability, then Lexus is a great choice. We have had two in the family and they proved to be bulletproof. And yes I agree with swajames that if I were buying a high mileage car, I'd take a Lexus over a BMW.
But to me, none of the virtues of a Lexus compensate for the fact that the handling, at least for the ES, GS ad LS models (all of which I have driven) is not even close to on par with the E60 with sport suspension. And sharp handling is priority number one for me. And I always lease new cars so long term; high mileage reliability is not a factor.
So for me, BMW is perfect. But I am the first to admit that, in general, Lexus has got BMW beat in the areas of reliability, interior quality and electronics quality. But I have never enjoyed driving any Lexus. To me, it is not the driver's car that the BMW is. But maybe the IS is different. I have never driven it and would never get one because it is too small for my needs.
But to me, none of the virtues of a Lexus compensate for the fact that the handling, at least for the ES, GS ad LS models (all of which I have driven) is not even close to on par with the E60 with sport suspension. And sharp handling is priority number one for me. And I always lease new cars so long term; high mileage reliability is not a factor.
So for me, BMW is perfect. But I am the first to admit that, in general, Lexus has got BMW beat in the areas of reliability, interior quality and electronics quality. But I have never enjoyed driving any Lexus. To me, it is not the driver's car that the BMW is. But maybe the IS is different. I have never driven it and would never get one because it is too small for my needs.
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I think Toyota builds good cars ... their attention to the tiniest of details is well known (well some of them anyway - accelerator pedals aside). And, according to a buddy who has been selling GM cars they seem to appeal to Chevrolet buyers looking to upscale their image or who seek a "quality" build.
From time to time BMW drivers deflect ... it's ok ... you'll be fine... take a deep breath and remember to slow down for curves and corners.
From time to time BMW drivers deflect ... it's ok ... you'll be fine... take a deep breath and remember to slow down for curves and corners.
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The IS is not a Toyota based model. The ES/GS/RX/LX are based on Toyota counter parts. Drive a V6 Camry and a ES350 both cars are completely different in handling and driving. Id rather have a Lexus then Acura. Acura=Annoying, Crappy, Ugly, Retarded, Animal, looking cars.
Maybe we just got unlucky with the ES at first but its doing fine now. Some of the comments are really immature. I have noticed on forums like Clublexus.com and My.is BMWs are praised and drooled over. On BMW forums Lexus is always bashed. :thumbsdown:
Maybe we just got unlucky with the ES at first but its doing fine now. Some of the comments are really immature. I have noticed on forums like Clublexus.com and My.is BMWs are praised and drooled over. On BMW forums Lexus is always bashed. :thumbsdown:
I would have to disagree with this statement. My family has owned many models from both automakers and I would have to say the Acura were very reliable, less trouble than the Lexus. As for the car design itself, it depends on certain models but at the time, we had a choice between the MDX (2nd generation) and RX, and we chose the MDX because it looks much better than the RX. However, I do agree that there is something wrong with the newer designs but as for reliability, thumbs up for the Honda's big brother.
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I would have to disagree with this statement. My family has owned many models from both automakers and I would have to say the Acura were very reliable, less trouble than the Lexus. As for the car design itself, it depends on certain models but at the time, we had a choice between the MDX (2nd generation) and RX, and we chose the MDX because it looks much better than the RX. However, I do agree that there is something wrong with the newer designs but as for reliability, thumbs up for the Honda's big brother.
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I would have to disagree with this statement. My family has owned many models from both automakers and I would have to say the Acura were very reliable, less trouble than the Lexus. As for the car design itself, it depends on certain models but at the time, we had a choice between the MDX (2nd generation) and RX, and we chose the MDX because it looks much better than the RX. However, I do agree that there is something wrong with the newer designs but as for reliability, thumbs up for the Honda's big brother.
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i drove my buddies is250 awd for a while, and hated how small the car is. had no power...engine sounded like a cheap 4 banger. tire noise was horrible in it too.
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I would have to disagree with this statement. My family has owned many models from both automakers and I would have to say the Acura were very reliable, less trouble than the Lexus. As for the car design itself, it depends on certain models but at the time, we had a choice between the MDX (2nd generation) and RX, and we chose the MDX because it looks much better than the RX. However, I do agree that there is something wrong with the newer designs but as for reliability, thumbs up for the Honda's big brother.
Does not sound like you drove a Lexus.
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I have to agree with this statement 100%...we're in the process of getting another SUV and my wife just can't get over the fact that Acura has ruined the look of the MDX even though we love its reliability. Any suggestion here guys??? I've narrowed it down to the RX300, ML350 (a bit small, IMO), Yukon Denali (my favorite but the wife hates it due to its size and she does not trust GM) but we're still searching.
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I have to agree with this statement 100%...we're in the process of getting another SUV and my wife just can't get over the fact that Acura has ruined the look of the MDX even though we love its reliability. Any suggestion here guys??? I've narrowed it down to the RX300, ML350 (a bit small, IMO), Yukon Denali (my favorite but the wife hates it due to its size and she does not trust GM) but we're still searching.