Run Flat Tyres test by Fifth Gear TV show
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I have Goodyear RFT's on my 135's, average roads im my area transmitted some harshness into the cabin which I did not experience with the replacement Falken 452's, like someone else already mentioned however the sidewalls on regular tyres feel like they are collapsiing when cornering hard in comparisson to the RFT's lol, I had 17inc Michelin MX3's on my car for the trackday and the sidewalls on those felt much nicer however.
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Note: There is one real big advantage to run flat tyres - you don't have to carry a spare wheel around with you.
As the spare only saps power and more fuel in the long run.
As the spare only saps power and more fuel in the long run.
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I don't know... I'm running Bridgestone RFTs on my 123s (18in) for the past year and I am still undecided. On the plus side for the RFTs is the safety and the stiffer sidewalls. On the minus side - stiffer sidewalls cause rims to crack in pothole-ridden NY and of course the ridiculous cost of the RFTs vs conventional. Factoring the costs of the tires and repairs of the cracked rims, I'd say that conventional tires are the way to go, but the only thing that's still holding me back is the stiffness of the sidewall - I just like that hard feeling to the wheels in the corner and no rolling under of the tire.
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Originally Posted by Banstead' post='893466' date='May 28 2009, 07:08 PM
Note: There is one real big advantage to run flat tyres - you don't have to carry a spare wheel around with you.
As the spare only saps power and more fuel in the long run.
As the spare only saps power and more fuel in the long run.
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Originally Posted by dusandimic' post='893503' date='May 28 2009, 07:52 PM
A bottle of fix a flat solves that problem.
My 04 came with a spare AND runflats, which were replaced by the dealer twice because they were defective. No way in hell was I going to pay $1600.00 the next time around for the same crap. Since then I've run Michelin, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS D3, and now I'm on to my set of Falken 452's for which I paid a grand total of $800.00, including mounting AND ROAD HAZARD, which INCLUDES 24 hour roadside assist. (Kick Ass tires btw)
I have never had a blowout, nor have I ever had all four tires fail as in the video. I HAVE had, on 2 separate occasions, a small roofing screw puncutre a tire, which both times I cured with a 15 cent tire plug, then a patch at the tire shop. On another occasion I had a non repairable sidewall puncture, which was replaced for free under the roadhazard, and I spent another 200 to match another new one on the other side.
Total spent for 3 tire failures- about 25 bucks. The cost if these were runflats? $1200.00 plus.
Also, the edge of adhesion is the edge of adhesion no matter what kind of tires you're on, so save some cash and have fun in your e60 without worrying about it. If you buy good tires you won't experience anything close to the ridiculous extremes they showed in the video.
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+1 for runflats. Thanks for the video. I think track rats and racers don't like runflats because runflats wear faster than normal tires. But in everyday use if you experience an emergency situation runflats may not only prevent or minimize damage to your car, they may save your life! Now that?s worth the slightly higher tire price and minor inconvenience of lower ride quality.
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Originally Posted by jrbmwenthusiast' post='893807' date='May 29 2009, 09:44 AM
+1 for runflats. Thanks for the video. I think track rats and racers don't like runflats because runflats wear faster than normal tires. But in everyday use if you experience an emergency situation runflats may not only prevent or minimize damage to your car, they may save your life! Now that?s worth the slightly higher tire price and minor inconvenience of lower ride quality.
It's not just in this video, but in many tests, otherwise why would they make them and why would the car manufacturers be convinced. The likes of BMW have thousands of the top engineers in the world working for them, and they're convinced enough to put them on either as an option, or as standard.
There will always be people who'll turn off the traction control all the time, despite it keeping you on the road, and people who won't wear seatbelts, despite them keeping you from going through the windshield, so it makes sense that there are some that will reject RFTs despite them keeping the car from spinning or flipping and rolling in a high speed blowout.
It wouldn't surprise me if Tiff and Vicks (from the video) reject them too, as they're both all about the performance usually. It's a shame they didn't extend the test to compare them against non-RFTs to see how they performed against the unpunctured tyres. I'm assuming (from the reports of people who've removed them here) that the non-RFTs would have been quieter, faster and smoother.
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I just like that hard feeling to the wheels in the corner and no rolling under of the tire.
If you buy good tires you won't experience anything close to the ridiculous extremes they showed in the video.
+1 for runflats. Thanks for the video. I think track rats and racers don't like runflats because runflats wear faster than normal tires. But in everyday use if you experience an emergency situation runflats may not only prevent or minimize damage to your car, they may save your life! Now that?s worth the slightly higher tire price and minor inconvenience of lower ride quality.
The biggest things for me are the slightly jittery ride on UK A and B roads, and the cost of purchase, they are seriously over priced and for that reason alone I probably wont purchase a new set in the future.
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Originally Posted by mhs525' post='894337' date='May 30 2009, 12:18 AM
What ever your car can do on run flats it can do better on non run flats