RFT's, again!!!!!!
10-09-2009 | 06:34 AM
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Has anyone successfully changed from RFT's to Non RFT's on this type of rim?
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
10-09-2009 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jambers' post='1028405' date='Oct 9 2009, 07:34 AM
Has anyone successfully changed from RFT's to Non RFT's on this type of rim?
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
10-09-2009 | 07:22 AM
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You REALLY don't know what your missing. My father has 18" RFT and I had 18" RFT. The ride is harsh as hell (Dunlop RFT that come with OEM rims from BMW). My father stayed on the RFT but mine wore out and had to change them. So i went with NON-RFT. What a HUGE DIFFERENCE. you really feel the smoothness of the car. You feel the difference. It is even cheaper once you change all four when you have staggered setup.
10-09-2009 | 07:41 AM
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On my 2004 545, I swapped out the factory style 116 wheels and went to the style 135 wheels. They were fitted with Michelin PS2 tires, non-RFT. While most BMW's rims are made to take RFT tires, they are not exclusive and can take non-RFT tires. Most dealers and service departments are misinformed on this (and many other!) issue.
As for the flat tire messages, depends on your car. If it is older and use the FTM system, there will be no impact. Simply reset the system after the new tires are fitted. Newer cars use the TPMS system which comes with sensors inside the rim. If you car uses this system you will have to transfer the sensor to the new wheels or buy new ones. The sensors are not terribly expensive...
As for the flat tire messages, depends on your car. If it is older and use the FTM system, there will be no impact. Simply reset the system after the new tires are fitted. Newer cars use the TPMS system which comes with sensors inside the rim. If you car uses this system you will have to transfer the sensor to the new wheels or buy new ones. The sensors are not terribly expensive...
10-09-2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bay550i' post='1028432' date='Oct 9 2009, 08:14 AM
I just went from 18in RFTs to 19in non-RFTs and it improved the car in every way. Don't listen to your dealer. Make a change.
That is what I did as well, much better comfort
10-09-2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jambers' post='1028405' date='Oct 9 2009, 10:34 AM
Has anyone successfully changed from RFT's to Non RFT's on this type of rim?
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
never listen to them . There must be more profit in a RFT lol .
10-09-2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jambers' post='1028405' date='Oct 9 2009, 10:34 AM
Has anyone successfully changed from RFT's to Non RFT's on this type of rim?
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
My local dealer is very non-committal about this; one person said the whole car is set up and designed to work on RFT's. I then pointed out that the 172's don't come with RFT and he said "I can't comment on that as I don't know if they do..." Yeah, right!
Another guy in parts said the rims are different and you cannot change to non RFT's. The tyres will not fit.
I then spoke to my local tyre fitter (Indy) who said that on this rim I would be plagued with flat tyre messages.
I've bought the spare wheel kit ?177 (ouch), my tyres still have life ion them, but I would like to know if this is possible on this rim as all the experts say don't do it.
PS - kit is to fit some mudflaps, dealers wanted >?100 just to fit 4 flaps!
10-09-2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jambers' post='1028405' date='Oct 9 2009, 07:34 AM
Has anyone successfully changed from RFT's to Non RFT's on this type of rim?
10-09-2009 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='1028664' date='Oct 9 2009, 02:58 PM
Pretty much everyone has been successful in doing this.
I put all-season non-RFT's on my 535i w/ M Sport two days after taking delivery. No issues at all -- the car still tracks like an arrow and takes corners just fine.