Reconsidered my position on Run Flats today.......
11-02-2006, 10:25 AM
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And are you sure an RF will be a life saver in a blowout ?
If a tyre blows out as in burst, I doubt it makes a huge difference if RF or not
Forgot to say, whatever makes you feel safe and comfortable, do it. It's personal opinion and evaluation.
I am far away from recommending to do it, but for me, based on my personal experience, I did it. Well I have 19's on anyway.
If a tyre blows out as in burst, I doubt it makes a huge difference if RF or not
Forgot to say, whatever makes you feel safe and comfortable, do it. It's personal opinion and evaluation.
I am far away from recommending to do it, but for me, based on my personal experience, I did it. Well I have 19's on anyway.
11-02-2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bimmer32' post='351536' date='Nov 2 2006, 04:32 PM
I factor... the probability of it "saving a life" based on my past history/experience.
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11-02-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by olli_535d' post='351621' date='Nov 2 2006, 11:25 AM
... If a tyre blows out as in burst, I doubt it makes a huge difference if RF or not ...
It's personal opinion and evaluation.
It's personal opinion and evaluation.
That's why there's that Donut tire in the trunk and a cell phone in my pocket.You can continue to drive slow to point wherever in a runflat but that tire is done ($$$)
I'd rather call for help(BMW Assist
) or switch to my spare if safe to do so, then drive to a tire shop.
11-02-2006, 12:49 PM
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As far as I am aware even non-runflat tyres are of a tubeless type and do not therefore suffer blowouts. The damage inflicted by a foreign object penetrating a tubeless cover, sufficient to immediately deflate the tyre would probably have similar consequences on a runflat tyre.
Where the run-flat tyre gains is that you do not need to empty the boot and fit a spare wheel to continue your journey, or stop in a safe place and call for help. The reason for this is to remove the need to change the spare immediately, partly because the force and skills necessary are not available to all potential drivers of the vehicle. Especially women.
Where a run flat tyre loses out is that if you reach your destination at 8:00 PM on a Saturday evening, you may not be able to order a replacement tyre until Monday morning, for Tuesday morning delivery and fitting. This is an unlikely scenario, butunfortunately rather more likely than a runflat actually preventing a fatal accident. This is without taking into account cost, tyre life, handling and comfort.
The runflat tyre is pure marketing. On the one hand it removes the obligation to supply a spare tyre, reducing cost, weight and CO2 emissions and at the same time increasing the room for shopping. On the other hand it makes the vehicle more attractive to women, who can continue their journey home, or at least to a safe place before stopping.
Runflats are for girls!
Where the run-flat tyre gains is that you do not need to empty the boot and fit a spare wheel to continue your journey, or stop in a safe place and call for help. The reason for this is to remove the need to change the spare immediately, partly because the force and skills necessary are not available to all potential drivers of the vehicle. Especially women.
Where a run flat tyre loses out is that if you reach your destination at 8:00 PM on a Saturday evening, you may not be able to order a replacement tyre until Monday morning, for Tuesday morning delivery and fitting. This is an unlikely scenario, butunfortunately rather more likely than a runflat actually preventing a fatal accident. This is without taking into account cost, tyre life, handling and comfort.
The runflat tyre is pure marketing. On the one hand it removes the obligation to supply a spare tyre, reducing cost, weight and CO2 emissions and at the same time increasing the room for shopping. On the other hand it makes the vehicle more attractive to women, who can continue their journey home, or at least to a safe place before stopping.
Runflats are for girls!
11-02-2006, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevermind' post='351678' date='Nov 2 2006, 03:49 PM
As far as I am aware even non-runflat tyres are of a tubeless type and do not therefore suffer blowouts. The damage inflicted by a foreign object penetrating a tubeless cover, sufficient to immediately deflate the tyre would probably have similar consequences on a runflat tyre.
Where the run-flat tyre gains is that you do not need to empty the boot and fit a spare wheel to continue your journey, or stop in a safe place and call for help. The reason for this is to remove the need to change the spare immediately, partly because the force and skills necessary are not available to all potential drivers of the vehicle. Especially women.
Where a run flat tyre loses out is that if you reach your destination at 8:00 PM on a Saturday evening, you may not be able to order a replacement tyre until Monday morning, for Tuesday morning delivery and fitting. This is an unlikely scenario, butunfortunately rather more likely than a runflat actually preventing a fatal accident. This is without taking into account cost, tyre life, handling and comfort.
The runflat tyre is pure marketing. On the one hand it removes the obligation to supply a spare tyre, reducing cost, weight and CO2 emissions and at the same time increasing the room for shopping. On the other hand it makes the vehicle more attractive to women, who can continue their journey home, or at least to a safe place before stopping.
Runflats are for girls!
Where the run-flat tyre gains is that you do not need to empty the boot and fit a spare wheel to continue your journey, or stop in a safe place and call for help. The reason for this is to remove the need to change the spare immediately, partly because the force and skills necessary are not available to all potential drivers of the vehicle. Especially women.
Where a run flat tyre loses out is that if you reach your destination at 8:00 PM on a Saturday evening, you may not be able to order a replacement tyre until Monday morning, for Tuesday morning delivery and fitting. This is an unlikely scenario, butunfortunately rather more likely than a runflat actually preventing a fatal accident. This is without taking into account cost, tyre life, handling and comfort.
The runflat tyre is pure marketing. On the one hand it removes the obligation to supply a spare tyre, reducing cost, weight and CO2 emissions and at the same time increasing the room for shopping. On the other hand it makes the vehicle more attractive to women, who can continue their journey home, or at least to a safe place before stopping.
Runflats are for girls!
11-02-2006, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 300TTto545' post='351690' date='Nov 2 2006, 10:13 PM
The added weight of the runflats is likely more than the weight of a spare tire (donut) and jack.
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11-02-2006, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by andymac' post='351298' date='Nov 1 2006, 07:29 PM
Had been thinking of swapping these for standard tyres based on forum comments but following a puncture on my way to work today which failed to disrupt my day I know I am going to stick with them.
Got to work fine had time to phone around and get some prices and drove to the garage when I had some free time this afternoon to have a new one fitted (Goodyear NCT5 ?171.00 Fitted)
Did a 500 mile round trip at the weekend with my wife and 2 children in the car at motoway speeds. Just thinking that if I swapped for non run flats and then had a high speed blow out in this situation I would never forgive myself if anyone got injured.
Are the benefits of improved ride / lower noise worth the safety / convenienece compromise?
On balance I would say not.
Got to work fine had time to phone around and get some prices and drove to the garage when I had some free time this afternoon to have a new one fitted (Goodyear NCT5 ?171.00 Fitted)
Did a 500 mile round trip at the weekend with my wife and 2 children in the car at motoway speeds. Just thinking that if I swapped for non run flats and then had a high speed blow out in this situation I would never forgive myself if anyone got injured.
Are the benefits of improved ride / lower noise worth the safety / convenienece compromise?
On balance I would say not.
Knock on wood, I've never had a blowout in 20 years. Only flat tires.
My runflats are fine but arguably a tad rough. I'm used to it. Not alot of long distance daily commuting for me. After driving a 525 with standard tires, I must say it rode much smoother. If commute situation changed and involved long daily commutes on the expressway, I'd consider a non-flat tire for sure.
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11-02-2006, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='351643' date='Nov 2 2006, 08:31 PM
[with a funflat] You can continue to drive slow .... I'd rather call for help(BMW Assist ) or switch to my spare if safe to do so, then drive to a tire shop...
) or switch to my spare if safe to do so, then drive to a tire shop...BTW contrary to what I previously thought, looking on this forum, it is not uncommon to get runflats repaired after a puncture and some subsequent uninflated driving.
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11-03-2006, 02:41 AM
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There seems to be something of a misconception here. One of the greatest advances in tyre technology was the introduction of tubeless tyres. This was done specifically to prevent blowouts. Tubeless tyres when punctured will not blowout. Damage that would cause a tubeless tyre to deflate so rapidly as to cause an accident would have a very similar effect on a run on flat tyre. Runflats offer no security advantage over a normal tubeless tyre, other than the fact that you are unlikely to get mugged when putting the spare on.
Forget the safety point of view, there isn't one!
Forget the safety point of view, there isn't one!
11-03-2006, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevermind' post='351831' date='Nov 3 2006, 11:41 AM
Damage that would cause a tubeless tyre to deflate so rapidly as to cause an accident would have a very similar effect on a run on flat tyre.
What IS a fact is that the sidewalls of a runflat tyre have different strength characteristics compared to a conventional tubeless tyre.
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