is really Japanese version BMW 5er E60 better than Germany version?
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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='1006004' date='Sep 12 2009, 11:41 PM
Oh, never mind...
I just noticed he did reply to this thread and by the time stamps I think he has seen it...
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I just noticed he did reply to this thread and by the time stamps I think he has seen it...
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I know their electronics are more technological advanced. My dad bought a lemon BMW in Hong Kong before. It wasn;t made in Germany and had much problems. I forgot where he told me it was made but it was somewhere in South East Asia but not in China.
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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='1006003' date='Sep 13 2009, 01:39 AM
Hey DRANGED,
with all respect, why do you display another well respected member as your avatar?
I have never seen him showing pics of himself... Is he cool with it?
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with all respect, why do you display another well respected member as your avatar?
I have never seen him showing pics of himself... Is he cool with it?
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Originally Posted by E60714' post='1005993' date='Sep 13 2009, 02:15 AM
Just gonna throw it out there....maybe this is that 5er troll. Maybe?? Otherwise, I dunno what he's talking about.
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Originally Posted by sdg1871' post='1006065' date='Sep 13 2009, 06:05 AM
No comment. As we (including me) were reminded by the mods during last week's issue, let the mods handle.
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Originally Posted by brabusw209amg' post='1006007' date='Sep 13 2009, 12:48 AM
I know their electronics are more technological advanced. My dad bought a lemon BMW in Hong Kong before. It wasn;t made in Germany and had much problems. I forgot where he told me it was made but it was somewhere in South East Asia but not in China.
BMW started producing automobiles at its Spartanburg, South Carolina, plant in 1994. Today, the plant manufactures the BMW X5 and the BMW X6. The production of the BMW X3 will be moving to Spartanburg from Europe after the completion of a major expansion of the U.S. facility.
The Spartanburg plant is open six days a week, producing automobiles approximately 110 hours a week. It employs about 4,700 people and manufactures over 600 vehicles daily. Recently, the plant has undergone a major renovation switching from 2 production lines down to one. Both the X5 and the X6 are produced in the same line, one right after the other.
Outside Germany, the largest output of the BMW Group comes from British factories. The Hams Hall plant manufactures four cylinder BMW engines for use around the world in 3-Series, 1-Series and Z4 vehicles. This is in addition to MINIs and Rolls-Royces made in Oxford and Goodwood.
BMW signed agreement in 1999 with Avtotor to produce cars in Kaliningrad, Russia. Factory has been assembling 3 and 5 -series cars.
Starting from October 2004, BMWs intended for the Chinese market are produced in Shenyang, China.[12] BMW has established a joint venture with Chinese manufacturer Brilliance to build BMW 3 Series and 5 Series that have been modified for the needs of local markets.
The BMW X3 was manufactured in Graz, Austria between 2004 and 2007 by Magna Steyr with mainly German components. The X3 production will be moved to the Spartanburg plant due in part to high production and transportation costs of what was meant to be the "more affordable" SUV. North American pricing, after said costs, were nearly on par with the larger, American-built X5.
In 2005, BMW Group built a new manufacturing facility in Egypt. This plant builds 3 Series, 5 Series, 7 Series, and X3 vehicles for the African and Middle East markets.
BMW opened its first assembly plant in Chennai, India in March 2007 to assemble 3-series and 5-series vehicles. The 20 Million Euro plant aims to produce 1,700 cars per year in the medium term, though this could rise to up to 10,000 cars if demand grows.[14][15] The new factory may also be used to help boost the production of BMW’s super-successful MINI.[16] BMW India headquarters is located in Gurgaon outside Delhi.
The BMW Group is considering the establishment of a new plant which will be located either in Volos, Greece or Limasol, Cyprus. These plants will be manufacturing motorcycles as well as the BMW 1 Series and the BMW 3 Series and will be serving the markets of Eastern Europe and Middle East. Construction is rumored to begin in 2009.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_BMW
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I'm pretty sure that that, at least with the Chinese E60 factory, that the cars are "pre-built" in Germany but are not completed until various assemblies are shipped to China. In other words, the way I understand it, they're sort of like "kits" where things just have to be bolted together, plugged in, etc. There's no welding or other major work being done.
It's been a while but when I first read about this plant, I think this approach was used because BMW was worried about quality (if they were built from the ground up in China) yet it was far less expensive to ship sub-assemblies to China and have them assembled there due to some outrageous import tax they have on (completed) cars.
We discussed this a little bit before in the FAQ thread:
https://5series.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2094
It's been a while but when I first read about this plant, I think this approach was used because BMW was worried about quality (if they were built from the ground up in China) yet it was far less expensive to ship sub-assemblies to China and have them assembled there due to some outrageous import tax they have on (completed) cars.
We discussed this a little bit before in the FAQ thread:
https://5series.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2094
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='1006128' date='Sep 13 2009, 07:56 AM
I'm pretty sure that that, at least with the Chinese E60 factory, that the cars are "pre-built" in Germany but are not completed until various assemblies are shipped to China. In other words, the way I understand it, they're sort of like "kits" where things just have to be bolted together, plugged in, etc. There's no welding or other major work being done.
It's been a while but when I first read about this plant, I think this approach was used because BMW was worried about quality (if they were built from the ground up in China) yet it was far less expensive to ship sub-assemblies to China and have them assembled there due to some outrageous import tax they have on (completed) cars.
We discussed this a little bit before in the FAQ thread:
https://5series.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2094
It's been a while but when I first read about this plant, I think this approach was used because BMW was worried about quality (if they were built from the ground up in China) yet it was far less expensive to ship sub-assemblies to China and have them assembled there due to some outrageous import tax they have on (completed) cars.
We discussed this a little bit before in the FAQ thread:
https://5series.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2094
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_knock_down
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Originally Posted by speedmeister' post='1006131' date='Sep 13 2009, 11:24 AM
This is pretty much standard industry practice. They are called knock down kits....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_knock_down
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_knock_down
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