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Old 02-25-2010, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa
I mean is there an actual electronic connection or is it done wirelessly. I just saw on TV that Toyota may be using throttle by wireless and I was wondering if BMW does the same thing. I used to work with wireless, and let me tell you, if that's the case, I have no trust in the technology whatsoever. :thumbsdown:
I heard that comment on the news channels also- it has to be wrong. I can't believe they would engineer it differently than everyone else who uses the pedal as a node on the network. The ECU controls the actuator and none of it's wireless.

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its called drive by wire, the same technology that is used on airplanes. there is no wireless in the accelerator pedal. someone previously had it right. there are sensors in the pedal that operate on a referance voltage, the further you press the pedal, the greater the change in referance voltage. the ECU reads that and converts it into a signal that is sent to the throttle as to how far to open. also, try holding your foot on the brake and try to accelerate. it should start to accelerate then shut the throttle down to avoid a runaway. this condition also sets a fault in the ABS system. I think it was called brake pressure sensor plausibilty-it basically indicated that the gas and brake were being pressed at the same time
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Originally Posted by pauliehcfr
try holding your foot on the brake and try to accelerate. it should start to accelerate then shut the throttle down to avoid a runaway. this condition also sets a fault in the ABS system. I think it was called brake pressure sensor plausibilty-it basically indicated that the gas and brake were being pressed at the same time
Tell THAT to Toyota drivers
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Originally Posted by Krozi
Tell THAT to Toyota drivers
Well, the problem with Toyota is that there is no intervention when both pedals are pressed. It works on BMW and Mercedes...I've tried it and seen the faults come up at the dealership
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Originally Posted by pauliehcfr
Well, the problem with Toyota is that there is no intervention when both pedals are pressed. It works on BMW and Mercedes...I've tried it and seen the faults come up at the dealership
That's why they're called "TOY"-ota and our cars are BMWs......
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa
That's why they're called "TOY"-ota and our cars are BMWs......
Well, there's a big difference between the amount of time taken during development to check everything and being cheap.

I had a TOY-ota Prius. It was a great car. Much more utilitarian than the 550. However, it was uncomfortable and the interior was falling apart at 56k miles. The mechanics of it were fine.

I bet that Toyota's car will come out better after these problems because they are going to be hyper sensitive to resolving all the current issues.
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa
That's why they're called "TOY"-ota and our cars are BMWs......
TOY-ota and BM-ws
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