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Originally Posted by hollywoodtrash' post='470152' date='Sep 16 2007, 11:23 PM
What do you mean it shifts itself just like an automatic? You mean when you put it in auto mode? That doesn't mean it shifts like a real automatic. It's not as smooth, you can get it close, but not that close.
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Originally Posted by hollywoodtrash' post='470155' date='Sep 16 2007, 11:26 PM
We already know that, thanks.
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I've driven an SMGIII for a few hours and it is very smooth. Hard to tell from an automatic. In this case, I drive an SMGII which is not so smooth. So what I just said was referring to an SMGII.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='470144' date='Sep 17 2007, 01:57 AM
Hahah I think you have mis read everything completely... Unless I'm the one that mis read everything...
The original poster WANTS SMG... doenst want a 6 speed manual gear box because of traffic and doenst like automatic transmissions... so the only transmission he wants is a Clutchless manual. Since BMW has dropped the clutcless manual in non-M cars hes asking when it will be back.
Not to be an ass but...
As for SMG shifting
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as for my response to your first comment. SMG does not shift automatically. there is a D mode where it "can" shift automatically but in its default M mode it will never upshift for you only down to prevent stalling and emergency braking to make use of engine braking.
The original poster WANTS SMG... doenst want a 6 speed manual gear box because of traffic and doenst like automatic transmissions... so the only transmission he wants is a Clutchless manual. Since BMW has dropped the clutcless manual in non-M cars hes asking when it will be back.
Not to be an ass but...
As for SMG shifting
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as for my response to your first comment. SMG does not shift automatically. there is a D mode where it "can" shift automatically but in its default M mode it will never upshift for you only down to prevent stalling and emergency braking to make use of engine braking.
Thanks to all, but I should have been clearer; The new sport automatic as far as I know, is not available on a M model, I wish it was. I know SMG is a manual transmission w/o a clutch pedal, I never liked it. BMW needs to do better than SMG, Porsche, Audi even AMG has a high tech slushbox.
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Originally Posted by jochet' post='470490' date='Sep 17 2007, 09:55 PM
Thanks to all, but I should have been clearer; The new sport automatic as far as I know, is not available on a M model, I wish it was. I know SMG is a manual transmission w/o a clutch pedal, I never liked it. BMW needs to do better than SMG, Porsche, Audi even AMG has a high tech slushbox.
fwiw, porsche/audi/amg's slushboxes aren't that "high tech". the vw tiptronic and amg automatic don't blip the throttle on downshifts and shift slower than smg. i believe only the current generation of zf automatics (such as the new bmw sport auto) do those things like smg.
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I can attest to the AMG 7speed not throttle blipping and a snail's pace shifting.
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='470570' date='Sep 17 2007, 09:34 PM
I can attest to the AMG 7speed not throttle blipping and a snail's pace shifting.
Hahah slow it may be... but for some reason it still PULLS during shifts... AMGs never stops accelerating... unlike SMG or even BMW autos that shift faster... you can feel a slight neutralness to it when the transmission is shifting but AMGs shifts are slow and seamless... CVT like.
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Originally Posted by BigLew' post='470149' date='Sep 16 2007, 11:17 PM
I don't know you tell me...
If I'm misinterpreting that, can the original poster clarify?
SMG does not shift automatically? Maybe you should clarify that one.
Not to be an ass but I drive SMG cars just about every weekday as part of my profession.
If I'm misinterpreting that, can the original poster clarify?
SMG does not shift automatically? Maybe you should clarify that one.
Not to be an ass but I drive SMG cars just about every weekday as part of my profession.
Nah, I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about you know best.
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