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02-06-2006, 05:59 AM
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Hello Guys,
I am new here, but it looks like a perfect place to ask all my questions
So, I am just about to order my new E60
and I need to hear some good advice from current E60 users
Well, I'm almost done configuring my car, however the longer I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland
- and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...
So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that
Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive.
So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
I am new here, but it looks like a perfect place to ask all my questions
So, I am just about to order my new E60
and I need to hear some good advice from current E60 users Well, I'm almost done configuring my car, however the longer I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland
- and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that
Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive. So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
02-06-2006, 06:31 AM
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the NAVI, looks to me like you could live without it. If you can live without the convenience of it, and don't mind using yr laptop, well, then drop it.
The M-Sport Pack: I don't know where you are driving yr car in Belgium, but personally the roads where I live are pretty decent. You should of course not try to find a farm in the middle of nowhere.
I have replaced my 18" wheels with 19". Am currently on 18" winter tyres, and sure, there is a difference in comfort, but I have no problem driving the 19".
It makes such a massive difference to the look of the car that I think this one is a no-brainer.
To be honest, and this is not a criticism to those not having the M-sport pack, I only really started liking the E60 when I saw one with the M-Sport Pack. This week I am getting the M-mirrors installed as well. I like the sporty look and I am willing to sacrifice some comfort for it. If I was a 'comfort guy', I could have bought an MB.
the NAVI, looks to me like you could live without it. If you can live without the convenience of it, and don't mind using yr laptop, well, then drop it.
The M-Sport Pack: I don't know where you are driving yr car in Belgium, but personally the roads where I live are pretty decent. You should of course not try to find a farm in the middle of nowhere.
I have replaced my 18" wheels with 19". Am currently on 18" winter tyres, and sure, there is a difference in comfort, but I have no problem driving the 19".
It makes such a massive difference to the look of the car that I think this one is a no-brainer.
To be honest, and this is not a criticism to those not having the M-sport pack, I only really started liking the E60 when I saw one with the M-Sport Pack. This week I am getting the M-mirrors installed as well. I like the sporty look and I am willing to sacrifice some comfort for it. If I was a 'comfort guy', I could have bought an MB.
Originally Posted by luxembourg' post='235623' date='Feb 6 2006, 03:59 PM
Hello Guys,
I am new here, but it looks like a perfect place to ask all my questions
So, I am just about to order my new E60 and I need to hear some good advice from current E60 users
Well, I'm almost done configuring my car, however the longer I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland - and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...
So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive.
So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
I am new here, but it looks like a perfect place to ask all my questions
So, I am just about to order my new E60
and I need to hear some good advice from current E60 users Well, I'm almost done configuring my car, however the longer I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland
- and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that
Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive. So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
02-06-2006, 07:00 AM
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i dont like the nav. to get poi like rest stops you need to play tricks on the unit. get a germin. the 7200 and 7500 have large screens. i prefer the 2610 or 2620
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A cheaper option would be to give your wife a map and let her nag you to any destination in the whole wide world 
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I've test driven two almost identical E60 - one with and one without the sports package.
The difference is very noticeable. The M suspension and the wider tyres give the E60 a much harder ride. I don't think you could call it uncomfortable but the difference vs the 'normal' E60 is evident. I think if you look for a relaxed ride - especially on longer distances and perhaps with a family in the back - go for the normal E60.
Looks to my mind clearly speak in favour of the M sports package.
The difference is very noticeable. The M suspension and the wider tyres give the E60 a much harder ride. I don't think you could call it uncomfortable but the difference vs the 'normal' E60 is evident. I think if you look for a relaxed ride - especially on longer distances and perhaps with a family in the back - go for the normal E60.
Looks to my mind clearly speak in favour of the M sports package.
02-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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I've ordered mine without navigation, having tried it on a number of other cars and been unimpressed with BMW's implementation (and I'm not just talking about iDrive). I use Autoroute on my laptop but will be buying a Garmin nuvi 350, TomTom One or TomTom Go 700 to use in the car....but not before I see what gets announced at CeBIT in March; it seems likely that TomTom will come up with something new.
Apart from getting a superior system for a lot less money, I'll be able to program it in the house before travelling and carry it with me to use in rental cars. Against that, it won't look as neat, the sound won't integrate with the stereo, and it will be a potential target for theft, which might make it very inconvenient. Also, your car will certainly be worth more 2nd-hand, with nav. Keep in mind, though, that today's sat nav systems will look archaic in 3-4 years.
One other thought....if you're going to order HUD, you'll want nav to get best value out of HUD.
I decided aginst M on UK roads. Runflats make the ride hard enough without it (and I wouldn't pay extra just for looks).
Apart from getting a superior system for a lot less money, I'll be able to program it in the house before travelling and carry it with me to use in rental cars. Against that, it won't look as neat, the sound won't integrate with the stereo, and it will be a potential target for theft, which might make it very inconvenient. Also, your car will certainly be worth more 2nd-hand, with nav. Keep in mind, though, that today's sat nav systems will look archaic in 3-4 years.
One other thought....if you're going to order HUD, you'll want nav to get best value out of HUD.
I decided aginst M on UK roads. Runflats make the ride hard enough without it (and I wouldn't pay extra just for looks).
02-06-2006, 12:27 PM
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Hi, and welcome. My time is a bit limited right now so here are the bottom lines. Nav. definitely. Then, you get the large display screen. At least that's the way it works in the US. Kit--no. The front of the kit looks very good. The side and rear parts add nothing but a bit of extra weight IMO. And, the kit "screems" that the car is more than it really is performance-wise. I'd get nice after-market wheels/tires rather than the kit--at least if a sport package, not having the different appearance pieces, is available in Europe.
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Originally Posted by luxembourg' post='235623' date='Feb 6 2006, 03:59 PM
Hello Guys,
I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland - and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...
So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive.
So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
I am thinking the less convinced I am if I should go for two options: NAVI and M-KIT.
Here comes my insight:
NAVI - my first thought was: a new BMW these days just has to have a NAVI system factory built in (even though my current E39 doesn't have one, and I'm doing just fine with my laptop + USB GPS installed inside). Anyway, I drove a test E60 twice already and I find its Navi less and less convenient as compared to a PC - GPS map (MS Auto route). So, I need an advice from all you guys who have their NAVI inside already:
- If you were in my shoes, driving daily about 15-20 km (10-15 miles) on route: "home - office" + occassional weekends away + couple of longer trips across Europe per year (when you'd actually need this NAVI, finding your way in a downtown of Paris or Amsterdam), is it worth to pay for NAVI Prof???
(keep in mind it costs in EU about 2300 EUR which is almost 2800 USD) and I guess, I will still carry my laptop along with me, anyway...
Second thing which drives me off is that the DVD map which BMW supplies with the car currently does not include Poland - and to tell you the truth most of my long-distance trips are from Luxembourg through Germany to Poland - so I will end up with my laptop+GPS combination there for next few months anyway...
So, what do you say? Give me some advice, please!
And the second question: M-Kit.
Well, I calculated how many things BMW actually gives you in this kit for the money, and it looks like an AMAZING deal with sport wheels, suspension, seats, spoilers, steering wheel and all. However, my dealer suggests that
Belgian and French roads are just not made for 18" wheels/tires + M sport suspension + front M spoiler, and I would scratch or hit and brake the wheel fairly soon... And I hear the "135" 18" wheel replacement is eeeexpensive. So, the question for current M-Kit owners: - do you really find its ride significantly less comfortable compared to standard 16" + normal tires?
And second question: - anyone actually did hit a curb (or heard about anyone), or a road-hole the way it would damage your wheel, or tear off a piece of front spoiler?
And some background info:
- I live and I will drive this car mainly in Luxembourg (where generally speaking roads and freeways are just as "flat and perfect" as in Germany), but as I also occasionally drive to Belgium, France and Poland, where roads unfortunately are far, far from good, I am just afraid if I push it to hard now to get the M-Kit I might actually regret that choice afterwards...
So, tell me - should I or shouldn't I go for M-Kit, and what about this NAVI? How useful do you find it on everyday basis?
I will appreciate all your advice and experience-sharing in those two areas.
I have no NAV at all! but have HUD
no regret I put my tomtom 700 go bt (bluetooth-works perfectly, speakerphone dial, sms etc. all cost 700-800?) no probs in reception. BMW bt costs lik e800? only nav is 3000?, they say that sales price will be lower if you do not have nav... BS, just the one who wants integrated will not buy it 1st but than if he likes your car will, it is a BMW e60 Secondly not integrated, true I can take it anywhere!!! the look so far nobody said it's cheap or not looking good... and if they wud they know nothing about GPS and Nav. -so safe ???
///M pack: I was a bit tired that since 2004 every car had it so...I went more radical way (HAMANN) ... but have the ///M rear.
together it is cooler ///M pack is def yesss
it is a totally different car. GET IT and be happy.About roads, it has nothing to do with it, of course you shall not go w 70km/h over a bump on the road, you know the big ones, but look at my HM front never reached the ground if normal driving, w ///M tech it is the same, actually mine is optically 'cheating' looks like it bites the grond but no, all measures are same as oem BMW e60 bumper, that is the trick, more aggresive same ride
same stor ywith rimz if you have 20" 19" they are perfect and you always has to be carefull wth such a car.
thx for the pic
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To my eyes the M Sport kit is a must - the e60 doesnt look right without it (in any colour). For the price in Europe it really is a decent deal and you get a lot more besides the bumpers.
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Originally Posted by SKK' post='235832' date='Feb 6 2006, 10:57 PM
To my eyes the M Sport kit is a must - the e60 doesnt look right without it (in any colour). For the price in Europe it really is a decent deal and you get a lot more besides the bumpers.
the m sport kit CANNOT be ordered together with dynamic drive, which rules out ordering it, besides it is WAY over the top; it spoils the classy look of the car, makes you look like the 20-something-olds that drive 10-year old 3 series with spoilers.
All the people that keep moaning about the ride quality of 18" RF should have ordered the car with dynamic drive instead of the M-kit: ride is uncomparable better, much more comfortable, but than again: it doesn't show that you spend an extra ? 3000-5000 on your car, which makes that most people go for the obsolete M-kit instead of the very usefull dynamic drive.
If you really cannot live without the spoilers, order the car with dynamic drive and have a dealer install of the body trim, which will set you back around ? 2500