nudda

I am losing confidence in the grip on my e60.
The tyres do not worn out and I have not put any waxes on the base of the wheels.
But when I corner (semi-hard) the car slips and I ened o quickly correct it.
Anyone know if this is normal or maybe I am pushing it too hard ?

How do you find the cornering is in your m-sports ?

Krozi

Do you have run-flats? Run flat tires have really tough sidewalls and are horrible in corners. I personally think that runflats aren't very safe at all.

JMC

What tyres have you got? Which end slips (i.e. are you getting oversteer or understeer)? And has it always been like this, or just since the weather got cold? It's not just since your Sprintbooster was installed is it?

Phantom Mark

I have run flats on my car atm ( came with the car ). If I push hard in a long sweeping corner or on something like a large roundabout etc all I get is gentle understeer as a warning, if the DSC/DTC is fully deactivated etc I can provoke some oversteer at will with the throttle and steering, nothing happens suddenly tho, and the understeer always comes first giving plenty warning of impending doom if your overstepping the mark.

The speeds im talking about many would consider as extreme and very near to the limit, or indeed beyond the limit, if your experiencing anything different in every day driving or just having a "bit of a blast" moment you have serious problems with either your car, or your technique ( dont mean that to sound rude, just being honest and covering all bases )

Phantom Mark

Dont forget this time of year things are massively exaggerated by the weather eh

dbusiness

I have the contis on the front and I know no one runs these but
Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 on the rear. The Michelins are only good if
you run in a warm climate and I have a hard time breaking them
once I get some heat into them.

I would think you must still have the run flats on and should consider
switching them for some high rated summer or winter tires and you
should see a dramatic improvement in the grip

nudda

I have Goodyear Eagle NCT 5 on 166 rims. I get understreer ... its the rear that keeps slipping outwards (which makes sense as its rear wheel drive. This only happens when hitting the throttle ... however certain bends I could do at 40mph ... i dont have he confidence in doing anymore. Its a big old car too so getting it back on the straight is not always easy.


Very true ... the leaves and moist dont help. Britain being like it is, weathers not the best for cornering. Moss, mould etc etc

Thanks guys - really helpful as per usual !!

Phantom Mark

I havn't really had the chance to grab this chassis by the scruff of the neck properly yet, cos of the weather of course, but the times I have played a little the immense torque makes the rear end go all over the place if you dont use your head in conjuction with the throttle lol, even with the Aids switched on the car squirms around all over the place if you get carried away ( albeit briefly )

I have never experienced this car with any other tyres, and can only compared the chassis with my E46 320d which I recently part ex'ed for this car , the E46 was positively tame compared to this in terms of getting the power down lol

So anyways yer, please accept my opinions on "my car" as a casual one and only having had somewhat of a limited but exciting play once or twice

Rob Hall

Mines a sport not m sport but have 18in conti 3 non run flats / koni fsd's with sport springs / cut down front bump stops and find the grip levels superb. As my e60 came with stock sport dampers and springs with dunlop run flats the grip levels and ride quality were far from desirable.

Rossman_999

Almost certainly at this time of the year it will be your tyres. Accepting its a little colder up here the difference in putting winter tyres on even in the UK is stunning.

I had left changing my tyres a little late and there was inch of snow on the drive, there was no way the standard tyres would get up my drive. 1 hour later and 4 winter tyres later not even a touch of wheelspin. Winter tyres are honestly that good!