Is this a legit BMW MAF Sensor? 2007 530i E60
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@twh - can you please point out how the MAF sensor suppose to look like? It's a bit confusing for me. I looked it up on realoem (RealOEM.com * BMW E60N 530i Intake muffler/Filter cartridge/HFM), both "Temperature Sensor" & "Hot-Film Air Mass Meter" are the same component (no 3)? They both have different part number: 13627547822 (no price) & 13627551638 ($306.24) respectively.
Are you saying that my car actually does not have a MAF sensor?? It's only a temp sensor? Could this be the root cause of the stalling issue? I tried removing the temp sensor completely and the car would still stall if I step on the gas too quickly.
Also, seems like US shops like BavAuto/Pelican/AutoHausAZ/FCPEuro don't sell temp sensor... and the MAF sensor is quite expensive...
Thanks again for the help.
Are you saying that my car actually does not have a MAF sensor?? It's only a temp sensor? Could this be the root cause of the stalling issue? I tried removing the temp sensor completely and the car would still stall if I step on the gas too quickly.
Also, seems like US shops like BavAuto/Pelican/AutoHausAZ/FCPEuro don't sell temp sensor... and the MAF sensor is quite expensive...
Thanks again for the help.
Last edited by tis66; 05-03-2015 at 05:09 AM.
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I don't know. One would assume your car originally came with a Temp Sensor and not a MAF sensor. Maybe the Temp Sensor is bad. Maybe someone put a Temp Sensor in place of a MAF and that's your problem. Don't know when BMW uses one versus the other. I don't know if the connector is the same -- if it is, that would make interchange possible on a physical level. I do recall reading someplace that the MAF version is *both* a MAF and a Temp Sensor in one unit.
Google Images for MAF (13627551638):
https://www.google.com/search?q=1362...w=1379&bih=923
Google Images for Temp Sensor (13627547822):
https://www.google.com/search?q=1362...w=1379&bih=923
Another thought it to run your VIN number though this VIN decoder:
BMW Model Archive · BMW VIN Decoder · bmwarchive.org
It may list those options seen in RealOEM for when Temp Sensor is used:
For vehicles with:
National version Korea L802A=Yes
NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN L807A=Yes
Equipment for leaded fuel S199A=Yes
Low compression engine S858A=Yes
National version Korea L802A=Yes
NATIONAL VERSION JAPAN L807A=Yes
Equipment for leaded fuel S199A=Yes
Low compression engine S858A=Yes
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As twh already mentioned, looks like your car is equipped with temp sensor only. May be in all E60s in Australia are manufactured like that.
Not having air flow sensor [and just having temp sensor] can't be the reason why the car is stalling because your car ran fine until this problem.
MAF in our cars looks like this... It looks like a small capacitor attached to two long shiny leads; all packaged in plastic.
In our cars, air flow sensor and [intake air] temp sensor are packaged in that single MAF sensor. Essentially, this sensor measures the amount & temp of air entering engine.
Not having air flow sensor [and just having temp sensor] can't be the reason why the car is stalling because your car ran fine until this problem.
MAF in our cars looks like this... It looks like a small capacitor attached to two long shiny leads; all packaged in plastic.
In our cars, air flow sensor and [intake air] temp sensor are packaged in that single MAF sensor. Essentially, this sensor measures the amount & temp of air entering engine.
Last edited by pcy; 05-03-2015 at 06:02 AM.
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The 'capacitor' you describe (and show in the picture) for the MAF is actually a thermistor used to measure intake temperature. The MAF sensor itself is either a thin wire or a film within the housing.
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I couldn't find any info as to what's the difference (in terms of performance) with Temp Sensor only vs MAF Sensor.
I think it may not be the cause of the issue.
Would appreciate if anyone can try the following and confirm if they face the same issue?
* Shift from N to D and try to hit the gas as quickly as you can (you may have to repeat). Would your car stall?
Thanks again for the help guys. I will have to bring the car in, and just have to suck it up for now
I think it may not be the cause of the issue.
Would appreciate if anyone can try the following and confirm if they face the same issue?
* Shift from N to D and try to hit the gas as quickly as you can (you may have to repeat). Would your car stall?
Thanks again for the help guys. I will have to bring the car in, and just have to suck it up for now
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Thanks for the input guys.
Stupid question, do I remove the MAF sensor and leave it open then take it for a test drive, or do I just unplug the cable?
@E60I - I've replaced the air filter but it still has the same issue of stalling if I rev the engine way too quickly.
I saw on youtube that you can use soapy water and spray it around the intake manifold to find out the vacuum leaks. I might give this a try instead of using carb cleaner. Unless you guys think it's a bad idea to use soapy water?
Cheers
Stupid question, do I remove the MAF sensor and leave it open then take it for a test drive, or do I just unplug the cable?
@E60I - I've replaced the air filter but it still has the same issue of stalling if I rev the engine way too quickly.
I saw on youtube that you can use soapy water and spray it around the intake manifold to find out the vacuum leaks. I might give this a try instead of using carb cleaner. Unless you guys think it's a bad idea to use soapy water?
Cheers
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