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Old 10-08-2009, 09:08 AM
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I think my posts from earlier got deleted so I apologize if I'm putting this in the wrong forum. Please advise.


I know how to lift the car using the factory pad points (the 4 on the rocker panels (2 each side), and the one under the engine). The question is, where can you place a conventional jack stand(s) (mine are Craftsman brand) to hold the car up while you're doing the work? Does anyone have pictures?
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw' post='1027766' date='Oct 8 2009, 01:08 PM
I think my posts from earlier got deleted so I apologize if I'm putting this in the wrong forum. Please advise.


I know how to lift the car using the factory pad points (the 4 on the rocker panels (2 each side), and the one under the engine). The question is, where can you place a conventional jack stand(s) (mine are Craftsman brand) to hold the car up while you're doing the work? Does anyone have pictures?
This is a common problem nowadays, manufacturers no longer put such information in owner handbooks for DIY work.It is quite easy to put a hydraulic jack in the wrong place and cause damage to bodywork or suspension.So,I now apply common sense,in that I only jack the car at the points shown for wheel changes,but for additional safety when under the car I place jack stands under specific points such as where the main suspension is anchored to the body.
If you don't have jack stands use large wooden blocks and/or a spare wheel as a safety measure,but do NOT use bricks.
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Originally Posted by tooltec' post='1027832' date='Oct 8 2009, 02:27 PM
This is a common problem nowadays, manufacturers no longer put such information in owner handbooks for DIY work.It is quite easy to put a hydraulic jack in the wrong place and cause damage to bodywork or suspension.So,I now apply common sense,in that I only jack the car at the points shown for wheel changes,but for additional safety when under the car I place jack stands under specific points such as where the main suspension is anchored to the body.
If you don't have jack stands use large wooden blocks and/or a spare wheel as a safety measure,but do NOT use bricks.

I have jackstands. I agree that its not just our cars that are difficult to lift on stands - its most modern stuff. The question is how do you put the weight of the vehicle down onto a jackstand if there isn't a good place for the force of the jackstand (weight of the vehicle) to rest? The jack is used to get the vehicle in the air. The jackstand is used to support the vehicle because it doesn't rely on a hydraulic cylinder which can seep down.
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw' post='1027857' date='Oct 8 2009, 01:47 PM
I have jackstands. I agree that its not just our cars that are difficult to lift on stands - its most modern stuff. The question is how do you put the weight of the vehicle down onto a jackstand if there isn't a good place for the force of the jackstand (weight of the vehicle) to rest? The jack is used to get the vehicle in the air. The jackstand is used to support the vehicle because it doesn't rely on a hydraulic cylinder which can seep down.
I use a hydraulic jack to lift the car and to take the weight,I wedge the jackstands with wooden blocks but only release the hydraulic jack enough to put a little weight on the jackstands.Therefore the jackstands are the "fail safe" supports,should the hydraulic jack fail.Touch wood,I've never had my hydraulic jack let me down.As I said ,common sense is needed on choosing support positions for the jackstands.
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw' post='1027857' date='Oct 8 2009, 11:47 AM
I have jackstands. I agree that its not just our cars that are difficult to lift on stands - its most modern stuff. The question is how do you put the weight of the vehicle down onto a jackstand if there isn't a good place for the force of the jackstand (weight of the vehicle) to rest? The jack is used to get the vehicle in the air. The jackstand is used to support the vehicle because it doesn't rely on a hydraulic cylinder which can seep down.
You are correct. People don't realize the danger of using hydraulic jack to support the car. I worked in ground support and we use jacks to raise the vehicle up and then use jackstand to keep it high enough to work under the vehicle. Hydraulic jacks can fail without warning, a line raptures or a structure breaks, and it will be disastrous. I use a jackstand or another jack on a secondary lifting point on same axle.

For the front, there is a rectangular rubberlike piece (#9) that I use.


For the rear, I place the jackstand on the differential, avoiding the rear cover with fins.
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I have found this to be the best safety device when using a jack:

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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='1027895' date='Oct 8 2009, 03:28 PM
You are correct. People don't realize the danger of using hydraulic jack to support the car. I worked in ground support and we use jacks to raise the vehicle up and then use jackstand to keep it high enough to work under the vehicle. Hydraulic jacks can fail without warning, a line raptures or a structure breaks, and it will be disastrous. I use a jackstand or another jack on a secondary lifting point on same axle.

For the front, there is a rectangular rubberlike piece (#9) that I use.


For the rear, I place the jackstand on the differential, avoiding the rear cover with fins.

Thanks! Is the car stable with only jack stands under the center pad and the diff? I read about using the diff as a jack point but wasn't sure if it was structurally sound enough to support ~1/2 the weight of the car?
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='1027895' date='Oct 8 2009, 03:28 PM
You are correct. People don't realize the danger of using hydraulic jack to support the car. I worked in ground support and we use jacks to raise the vehicle up and then use jackstand to keep it high enough to work under the vehicle. Hydraulic jacks can fail without warning, a line raptures or a structure breaks, and it will be disastrous. I use a jackstand or another jack on a secondary lifting point on same axle.

For the front, there is a rectangular rubberlike piece (#9) that I use.


For the rear, I place the jackstand on the differential, avoiding the rear cover with fins.

Thanks! Is the car stable with only jack stands under the center pad and the diff? I read about using the diff as a jack point but wasn't sure if it was structurally sound enough to support ~1/2 the weight of the car?
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Originally Posted by bloomjbmw' post='1027904' date='Oct 8 2009, 12:37 PM
Thanks! Is the car stable with only jack stands under the center pad and the diff? I read about using the diff as a jack point but wasn't sure if it was structurally sound enough to support ~1/2 the weight of the car?
The front is ok but for the rear I don't really put the weight of the car on jack or stand. It is just barely touching it as an insurance in case the other jack gives out.
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