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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by devhan
I believe the N52 will turn out to be one of BMW's best motors. No motor is perfect and if its just the exhaust valves that could cause a problem in a few then I see this engine running strong when all of the other stuff around it has fallen off.
So far from what I have been reading, it has proven it's self very well over the last five years. I am more worried about the electronics then the mechanical in this car because it seems to be it can be equal bad if you have to pay out of pocket.
+1, I'm more worried about the electronics than my N52 engine!
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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$800 is not accurate. My BMW Service Centre told me parts alone costs $3.5k (in Australia) for all 24 lifters, plus 6 hrs labour.

If only doing exhaust lifters, then cost is halved of course.

Better than a complete top end replacement I guess

Also, my BMW Service Manager said he hasn't seen ANY 530's come through with this issue, so they are very reliable engines, and this issue is pretty rare down here in Australia. This is a relief!
Mine was done under goodwill just after the new TSB came out and my car was a couple months past warranty, but under mileage. And, just before my warranty expired, I had this complaint and they preformed the previous "bleeding" procedure (which was BS). The paperwork said $800-something. Maybe that's what BMW reimburses the dealer - not sure. They only replace the 12 exhaust lifters. The camshaft doesn't not need to be removed. See the Bulletin SI B 11 09 07. It has a labor code of "00 58 248", if someone can translate that to hours. Then, use your local shop rate.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:19 AM
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Just to clarify, the exhaust lifter issue is NOT related to normal wear and tear, right???

The issue is related to lifters which are "out of spec", correct?

I'm just asking because I want to take out an Extended Warranty on this car as soon as I buy it, and I want to make sure *IF* the motor starts to exhibit these excessively noisy lifters, I would have no issues making a claim for the repairs (i.e. replacing all the exhaust lifters). This is a $3.5k (in parts) job, plus labour, so I'd want to make sure my extended warranty would cover this.

The warranty provider might try to squirm their way out of it by saying it's just "normal wear and tear".

That's my concern.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 530i-M
Just to clarify, the exhaust lifter issue is NOT related to normal wear and tear, right???

The issue is related to lifters which are "out of spec", correct?

I'm just asking because I want to take out an Extended Warranty on this car as soon as I buy it, and I want to make sure *IF* the motor starts to exhibit these excessively noisy lifters, I would have no issues making a claim for the repairs (i.e. replacing all the exhaust lifters). This is a $3.5k (in parts) job, plus labour, so I'd want to make sure my extended warranty would cover this.

The warranty provider might try to squirm their way out of it by saying it's just "normal wear and tear".

That's my concern.
That's right, it is not a wear and tear item. The Bulletin says "Improved parts". But, there's no telling what a warranty company is going to say. Here is the Bulletin SI B11 09 07.

One more thing...I do agree that the N52 is a good engine. I have 45K miles and I've never had a engine performance problem and I drive the car pretty hard.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by monsterj34
m54 will be the best engine made out there because it is strong and well made... my family had e39 with m54 engine and ran strong for 8 yrs without any problem.

good thing about m54 is you can put supercharger on them...

I have N52 and honestly no problem at all..

Proud owner of M54B30 ! Its a solid beast.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03
I didnt say there isnt a defect, I didnt say I dont feel sorry for them, I didnt say Toyota isnt wrong in this whole ordeal. I'm saying this Toyota thing is just being blown way out of proportion than it really is. The percentage of "actual" stuck gas pedal will be much much less than the actual ticking issues, in context to what my original quote was. what is it? 70 "reported" stuck gas pedals of 7.8Million vehicles? That's what? 99.99999% reliability for the gas pedals? I'm sorry but when is there ever 100% on parts? 1 space shuttle disaster killed more people than this gas pedal did...



I'm just saying that even Toyota's problem right now IT IS STILL a small group that actually has the major problem.


Last post. I'm dropping this. unsubscribing to this thread. It wasnt meant to be an argument it was what I thought at the time. And I'm not surprised to see I wasn't the only one that thought that. Over and out.
Sorry I caused you distress. I certainly did not mean it. I just thought that "conspiracy" was a little bit far-fetched. That's all. Peace.
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Old Feb 17, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by twh
That's right, it is not a wear and tear item. The Bulletin says "Improved parts". But, there's no telling what a warranty company is going to say. Here is the Bulletin SI B11 09 07.

One more thing...I do agree that the N52 is a good engine. I have 45K miles and I've never had a engine performance problem and I drive the car pretty hard.
Thanks for confirming.

The dealership's extended warranty policy states that I can ONLY have the car serviced by their workshop, which is complete bullsh*t.

I'm shopping for warranty cover where I can have the car serviced by a BMW Service Centre.

At least then, IF the problem ever does arise, BMW can stand up for me and say it's not caused by wear and tear, but by an inherent fault with the original lifters
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Old May 3, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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haven't posted much on here at all but thought i'd chirp in anyway.

i got mu 06 530i m sport with 36k a few weeks ago and the motor runs like a swiss watch, i've driven many many cars over the years as i spent many years in the motor trade. i too think the n52 is a stonking motor, i'm delighted with it having just completed around one thousand miles. can't see any problems, i had an e60 530d before this and it is a farm vehicle by comparison, i'd say relax and enjoy!!
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Old May 9, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 530i-M
Hi guys,

I'm on the verge of purchasing a 2005 BMW E60 530i M Sport. The car is very well presented and immaculate.

Today I took the car for a pre-purchase inspection at a BMW Service Center, and the diagnostics report shows it has the N52 motor!!! I thought these earlier 5 series cars had the M54B30 motors?

ANYWAY, on the two occasions I've had the opportunity to drive the car, it's always been driven / warmed up by the dealer beforehand, so I have never actually started, and run the car from cold.

I'm worried that this car might be a lemon, and could potentially cost me thousands of dollars in fixing this cylinder head / lifter ticking problem. I doubt very much whether the dealership would cover this repair under their warranty.

What should I do? Should BMW be able to tell me whether this vehicle had the cylinder head fixed under warranty years ago??

Advice GREATLY appreciated!
Walk away! You already have determined the car is questionable so why would you purchase it????
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Old May 9, 2010 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseyGeorge
Walk away! You already have determined the car is questionable so why would you purchase it????
from what kind of dealership are you getting this car ?
Sounds shady if the warranty is only good with them.
Go to a BMW dealership and get a CPO.
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