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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='516343' date='Jan 11 2008, 09:36 AM
Here is a new Service Bulletin that may be your issue:
SIB 65 41 07
Audio, Navigation, Monitors, Alarms, SRS January 2008
Technical Service
SUBJECT
CCC Loss of Audio and CID Blanks Out
MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series) with CCC Navigation (SA 609)
E60, E61 (5 Series) with CCC Navigation (SA 609)
E63, E64 (6 Series)
E70 (X5) with CCC Navigation
Vehicles produced up to March 2007
SITUATION
The customer states that the audio cuts out in all modes and the CID (Central Information Display) blanks out.
One or more of the following fault codes are stored:
CID FC A46D ? Head unit reset
MOST FC FFF3 ? MOST System Analysis
CAUSE
CCC (Car Communication Computer) failure
PROCEDURE
Perform a short test on the vehicle.
Perform the test plan for the MOST system analysis fault (B6500_61154).
Continue in the test plan until the screen "The determined cause of the fault is as follows: "[1] (*****) CCC Car Communication Computer". If this result is not given, continue troubleshooting other faults stored in the vehicle.
The test plan advises to reprogram the CCC. Do not reprogram the CCC.
Replace the CCC only if the above-mentioned result is given.
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number Description Quantity
65 83 9 133 777 CCC (E90, E91, E92, E93) 1
65 83 9 133 774 CCC (E60, E61, E63, E64) 1
Refer to EPC CCC (E70) 1
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code 65 10 19 12 00
Main Work*
Labor Operation: 65 10 009 Troubleshoot Radio
Labor Allowance: Refer to KSD
*Main Work:
(New) Use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
Part replacement authorization is NOT required. Do NOT submit a TeileClearing PuMA case. A copy of the diagnostic report (short test), which includes a copy of the test modules that were completed, must be kept with the Repair order (RO) and FASTA data must be transmitted. When submitting a warranty claim, please include the following information in the comments section:
Diagnostic or programming codes generated by the test plan (Note: not all test plans generate these codes.)
SI B65 41 07
Let me know if you need pretty copy (Adobe)
SIB 65 41 07
Audio, Navigation, Monitors, Alarms, SRS January 2008
Technical Service
SUBJECT
CCC Loss of Audio and CID Blanks Out
MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series) with CCC Navigation (SA 609)
E60, E61 (5 Series) with CCC Navigation (SA 609)
E63, E64 (6 Series)
E70 (X5) with CCC Navigation
Vehicles produced up to March 2007
SITUATION
The customer states that the audio cuts out in all modes and the CID (Central Information Display) blanks out.
One or more of the following fault codes are stored:
CID FC A46D ? Head unit reset
MOST FC FFF3 ? MOST System Analysis
CAUSE
CCC (Car Communication Computer) failure
PROCEDURE
Perform a short test on the vehicle.
Perform the test plan for the MOST system analysis fault (B6500_61154).
Continue in the test plan until the screen "The determined cause of the fault is as follows: "[1] (*****) CCC Car Communication Computer". If this result is not given, continue troubleshooting other faults stored in the vehicle.
The test plan advises to reprogram the CCC. Do not reprogram the CCC.
Replace the CCC only if the above-mentioned result is given.
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number Description Quantity
65 83 9 133 777 CCC (E90, E91, E92, E93) 1
65 83 9 133 774 CCC (E60, E61, E63, E64) 1
Refer to EPC CCC (E70) 1
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code 65 10 19 12 00
Main Work*
Labor Operation: 65 10 009 Troubleshoot Radio
Labor Allowance: Refer to KSD
*Main Work:
(New) Use this labor operation number when this is the only repair being performed, or if this is the main repair when performed along with other repairs at the same time. If this is not the main repair, refer to KSD for the associated (+) labor operation code.
Part replacement authorization is NOT required. Do NOT submit a TeileClearing PuMA case. A copy of the diagnostic report (short test), which includes a copy of the test modules that were completed, must be kept with the Repair order (RO) and FASTA data must be transmitted. When submitting a warranty claim, please include the following information in the comments section:
Diagnostic or programming codes generated by the test plan (Note: not all test plans generate these codes.)
SI B65 41 07
Let me know if you need pretty copy (Adobe)
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Originally Posted by iversonm' post='516190' date='Jan 10 2008, 07:46 PM
Hold down both the CD eject, DVD eject, and the power button (a.k.a. the volume knob) at the same time.
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What happend if the iDrive died after the warranty is over???
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Originally Posted by tallers' post='516354' date='Jan 11 2008, 10:40 AM
PDF would be great!! Thanks for sharing.
SI_B_65_41_07.pdf
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Thanks Cobradav!! The dealer stated the CCC is covered under CPO so I hope they replace it during my appointment on Monday. Thanks again. ..Tim
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Originally Posted by tallers' post='516469' date='Jan 11 2008, 10:03 PM
Thanks Cobradav!! The dealer stated the CCC is covered under CPO so I hope they replace it during my appointment on Monday. Thanks again. ..Tim ![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
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Don't forget you also loose all personal settings (POI, Audio settings...etc...etc...)
Good luck anyway
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Originally Posted by copello' post='516490' date='Jan 11 2008, 03:05 PM
From my own experience, replacing CC takes a little more than a day (replacing CCC module + reprogramming + checking); My dealer systematically asked for 2 1/2 days overall. Maybe you should anticipate for a loaner ?
Don't forget you also loose all personal settings (POI, Audio settings...etc...etc...)
Good luck anyway
Don't forget you also loose all personal settings (POI, Audio settings...etc...etc...)
Good luck anyway
So far the problem hasn't returned (yet).
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OK, finally got my car back. Copello you were correct that it would not take just 1 day for the work.
First of all, neither the CCC nor the software update are covered by CPO. :thumbsdown:
The dealer said they would update the software to the latest version. They felt the CCC was fine. Also, due to its cost of the CCC (>$1200), try the software first. The labor to do the job cost me $190.
The new software version is: E060-07-09-521 The old software was E060-06-12-510.
So far the iDrive is alive. I will update the post if anything changes. Thanks all for the advise.
First of all, neither the CCC nor the software update are covered by CPO. :thumbsdown:
The dealer said they would update the software to the latest version. They felt the CCC was fine. Also, due to its cost of the CCC (>$1200), try the software first. The labor to do the job cost me $190.
The new software version is: E060-07-09-521 The old software was E060-06-12-510.
So far the iDrive is alive. I will update the post if anything changes. Thanks all for the advise.