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Old 09-26-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by das' date='Sep 26 2005, 10:28 PM
[quote name='BMW#5' date='Sep 26 2005, 01:57 PM']Based on the formulae above, l calculated that the rear M172 wheel sticks out approx 24mm if the 172 wheel is 9"wide or 30mm if the 172 is 9.5" wide.

Something is clearly not right. Das, anyone... ideas?
Well, the Style 172 rear wheel is 9.5" wide with a 32mm positive offset. So:

19 x 9.5: 9.5" wide, ET 32mm (1.26" offset) = 4.75" (wheel centerline) + 1.26" offset = 6.01" distance from hub

Is that not correct? The offset is only the positive or negative difference from the centerline of the wheel.

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Ok so Style 135
18 x 8: 8" wide, ET 20mm (0.79" offset) = 4" (wheel centerline) + 0.79" offset = 4.79" distance from hub,

and

172 wheel, 19 x 9.5: 9.5" wide, ET 32mm (1.26" offset) = 4.75" (wheel centerline) + 1.26" offset = 6.01" distance from hub

Which gives:
6.01" - 4.79" = 1.22" or 30mm more offset from hub on 172 rear wheels vs 135 rear wheels.

I could beleive a 15mm difference, but 30mm is just not possible. Could we be neglecting a factor of 2 somewhere in the calculation?
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Yup. Looks outstanding. I'm getting a woodie with all this tech talk too.
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oh wow! how cute...it goes well with the color too!
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Wow what a difference that wheel makes,very nice indeed.
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Great looking car.....

Must be the best lookign E60 in Jo'burg!

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Originally Posted by BMW#5' date='Sep 26 2005, 03:02 PM
Ok so Style 135
18 x 8: 8" wide, ET 20mm (0.79" offset) = 4" (wheel centerline) + 0.79" offset = 4.79" distance from hub,

and

172 wheel, 19 x 9.5: 9.5" wide, ET 32mm (1.26" offset) = 4.75" (wheel centerline) + 1.26" offset = 6.01" distance from hub

Which gives:
6.01" - 4.79" = 1.22" or 30mm more offset from hub on 172 rear wheels vs 135 rear wheels.

I could beleive a 15mm difference, but 30mm is just not possible. Could we be neglecting a factor of 2 somewhere in the calculation?
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Ok, I think I finally figured out what I am doing wrong. Width does come into play, but the offset isn't "added" to the inside "half" of the wheel from its centerline; it's subtracted from the outside half!

Let's take a look at this diagram again:



I have been adding A + C to get B, the rim's "backspace", and those calculations are indeed correct. But what we are looking for is the distance from the wheel's bolt face to out outer edge of the rim, in other words, not A + C, but A - C (or, 2A - . So let's try this again:

Style 135
18 x 8: 8" wide, ET 20mm (0.79" offset) = 4" (wheel centerline) - 0.79" offset = 3.21" distance from hub

Style 172
19 x 9.5: 9.5" wide, ET 32mm (1.26" offset) = 4.75" (wheel centerline) - 1.26" offset = 3.49" distance from hub

Which gives:
3.49" - 3.21" = 0.28", or 7mm more offset from hub on 172 rear wheels vs 135 rear wheels.

Now let's do the fronts:

Style 135
18 x 8: 8" wide, ET 20mm (0.79" offset) = 4" (wheel centerline) - 0.79" offset = 3.21" distance from hub

Style 172
19 x 8.5": 8.5" wide, ET 18mm (0.71" offset) = 4.25" (wheel centerline) - 0.71" offset = 3.54" distance from hub

Which gives:
3.54" - 3.21" = 0.33", or 8.4mm more offset from hub on 172 front wheels vs 135 front wheels.

Does that look better?

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Soooo...width still comes into play, but I was just figuring the wrong dimension!

For what it's worth, this also means that the Style 172 wheel is inset an additional 4mm than the Style 166 wheel on the rear, and 6mm on the front. And that answers my worries about the Style 166 sticking out too much on the xi; the Style 172 seems like it will work just fine:

Style 123 (for reference)

4" - 0.787" offset = 3.213"

Style 172

Front: 4.25" - 0.709" offset = 3.541" - 3.213" = 0.328" (+8.33mm)
Rear: 4.75" - 1.260" offset = 3.490" - 3.213" = 0.277" (+7.04mm)

Style 166

Front: 4.25" - 0.472" offset = 3.778" - 3.213" = 0.565" (+14.35mm)
Rear: 4.75" - 1.102" offset = 3.648" - 3.213" = 0.435" (+11.05mm)

Based on that information, I feel comfortable ordering the Style 172 for my own car.
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Man, I love those wheels. They are now on my wishlist, they look absolutely brilliant, better even than the M5 wheels.

However, Mrs Shiny hates you, as she's not getting a new kitchen now


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