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Old 05-05-2008, 12:42 PM
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Okay guys, first of all, I have done a search on this subject but can't find the answer, hence this post.

It just occured to me that over the winter, whenever there was frost in the morning, I couldn't use the washer jets even after long (upto an hour) drive because I assume the nozzles were frozen. I could only start using them, after I have parked the car for sometime (by which time I assume the heat from the driven engine melted the frost from the nozzle). I found this strange , because I thought the nozzles were heated but never got arround looking into it. (I don't recall having this problem in my previous E46 & E39)

My warranty on my 05 530i (2nd car) will run out soon and naturally I am keen to get any faults looked at by the local dealer. As winter/frosty days are gone now, I can't test it, so my question is:

Would you say this is normal operation (i.e. you have experienced similar) or do you think the washer jet is faulty ? If its the latter, I assume there should be some fault code reported that the dealer can verfiy, am I correct?

Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestion.
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I presume they are heated (especially since I have the cold weather package) as way back to my e28 they were.

But then I also use a "winter" mix in my windshield washer / headlight washer reservoir. I had no problem with frozen jets this past winter when the temperature was at 20 degrees F.

From p 68 of my owners manual ('07 530xi w/premium and cold weather ++)
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I've never had an issue with frozen washer jets on my e60 or any other car, BMW or otherwise. And, yes, I have and currently do, live in a place where the temperatures go below 20F. I always attributed this to the chemical mix of the washer fluid rather than heated jets. However, the e60 and some of my previous cars may have/have had this feature.
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It's heated from the source, not right at the jets --> if the water is frozen at the jet, you can't do anything until those "ice blocks" melt away. My recommendation is to use good "winter" mix all the time if you live in area where temperature goes down below freezing point. People use tap water and many busted their jet wash system.
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Originally Posted by BlueSander' post='574734' date='May 5 2008, 07:08 PM
It's heated from the source, not right at the jets --> if the water is frozen at the jet, you can't do anything until those "ice blocks" melt away. My recommendation is to use good "winter" mix all the time if you live in area where temperature goes down below freezing point. People use tap water and many busted their jet wash system.
Not true. The jets are heated directly at the jet. They are supposed to turn on at temperatures below 3 degrees Celsius so unless there was an ice storm that covered the jets in ice, they should function pretty well as long as the proper fluid is used.

I've experienced a frozen jet on a non-BMW many times before but since my E30 (1989) M3, they've never frozen. Yes, I use the washer fluid that isn't supposed to freeze under normal conditions but in very cold temperatures, it still does...
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I really though those are too small to be heated right there at the jets. Anyhow, something good to learn lol
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Thanks for responding guys. Okay, from your comments I take it that I shouldn't have had any problems & the jets should have functioned properly provided that I have used appropriate fluid (which I am sure I did, although I am not sure if I got the mixture / concentration right).

Anyways, does a fault with heating element of washer jets generate error codes that the local dealer can confirm for me using the diagonistic tools?
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Originally Posted by BizyB' post='575318' date='May 6 2008, 04:01 PM
Thanks for responding guys. Okay, from your comments I take it that I shouldn't have had any problems & the jets should have functioned properly provided that I have used appropriate fluid (which I am sure I did, although I am not sure if I got the mixture / concentration right).

Anyways, does a fault with heating element of washer jets generate error codes that the local dealer can confirm for me using the diagonistic tools?
I don't know if an error is logged (unlikely) but there should be a way to test things out with an ohmmeter or something...
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