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crooney1970 02-28-2015 07:03 AM

Heated seat almost burned through leather
 
My 2004 530i with 81k miles has developed a faulty heated drivers lower seat. I started smelling something burning and a looked down at my seat after getting out of the car to find brown marks on my Dakota Beige seat! The dealer told me to call BMWNA. I did on Friday. They documented all that happened and said they would submit this for review and I would hear a response within 1-3 business days. I hope they help me out even though my car is way out of warranty. Doing some research I guess this has happened to many people and they have replaced some and others they have denied. We'll see! Think my chances are good??

twh 02-28-2015 07:24 AM

Have a look here:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/..._ids=04V575000

crooney1970 02-28-2015 11:33 AM

Thanks for the link.. My car had that recall performed back in 05 for the back of the seat. This however is for the lower seat cushion. Same issue though!!

crooney1970 03-03-2015 08:22 AM

Got a call back from BMWNA today. They want me to take the car to any BMW dealer of my choice to get an estimate for the repairs to my drivers seat. I guess I'll have to pay for an hour of labor but it seems like they seem willing to help me out with this situation but to what extent I guess I'll have to find out after the dealer looks at it.

crooney1970 03-10-2015 12:41 PM

The dealership is not charging me to check out the seat. Pleasant surprise!

cmyachtie 03-10-2015 03:24 PM

Interesting to see what happens here as I had seem issue a year ago and dealer, nor BMWNA declined to do anything as they had already done the recall fix before and it covered only the back of the seat heater not the side of the bottom seat( a load of crap I said to them)......I even filed a complained with Canada Transport but am still burning the seat. I have also learned a "workaround " by only turning the heater on for a short time and turn it off before it start to burn thru the leather..
Pls keep us posted on your outcome with this
Thanks

crooney1970 03-12-2015 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by cmyachtie (Post 1558924)
Interesting to see what happens here as I had seem issue a year ago and dealer, nor BMWNA declined to do anything as they had already done the recall fix before and it covered only the back of the seat heater not the side of the bottom seat( a load of crap I said to them)......I even filed a complained with Canada Transport but am still burning the seat. I have also learned a "workaround " by only turning the heater on for a short time and turn it off before it start to burn thru the leather..
Pls keep us posted on your outcome with this
Thanks

Well just heard from BMWNA. As it stands right now they are offering to pay for half the cost but we're still negotiating. I referenced them this post from the BMMCCA forum where a guy with the same car and year as mine got his 100% paid for. We'll see if they will improve their offer. https://www.bmwcca.org/forum/index.php?threads/2004-530i-heated-seat-fire.9474/

seanjordan20 03-12-2015 11:03 AM

That is typical and most people would take that offer. I would not though. It does not do any good showing them what they did for others because their situation will be different (i.e car not as old, less miles, damage was might have been worse). I would look at it as nothing because if the only reason you want me to give my money away to fix an 11 year old car is because I did it for someone else then it is not that important to you. That is what you would call adolescent tactics. You have to treat situations as an adult to get the "required" solution (meaning there is no other solution that is acceptable). Put emphasis on how dangerous it is and the lives it can potentially take. Make them realize the danger. I am not saying your tactics will not work but if I want BMW "a $83 billion company" to pay for something they do not have a recall on I would make sure they know their companies negligence and the outcome that can potentially come from it.

I have successfully had a starter, head light assemblies and altenator replaced for free out of warranty due to BMW incompetence.

crooney1970 03-12-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by seanjordan20 (Post 1559029)
That is typical and most people would take that offer. I would not though. It does not do any good showing them what they did for others because their situation will be different (i.e car not as old, less miles, damage was might have been worse). I would look at it as nothing because if the only reason you want me to give my money away to fix an 11 year old car is because I did it for someone else then it is not that important to you. That is what you would call adolescent tactics. You have to treat situations as an adult to get the "required" solution (meaning there is no other solution that is acceptable). Put emphasis on how dangerous it is and the lives it can potentially take. Make them realize the danger. I am not saying your tactics will not work but if I want BMW "a $725 billion company" to pay for something they do not have a recall on I would make sure they know their companies negligence and the outcome that can potentially come from it.

I have successfully had a starter, head light assemblies and altenator replaced for free out of warranty due to BMW incompetence.

Thanks for the advice. Only reason I referenced that other situation was because the car and Miles were very close to mine. I did mention that it is as safety issue that could lead to some very serious injury if not fixed. I'll keep the outcome updated

seanjordan20 03-12-2015 05:25 PM

Thanks for understanding my post I did not know how it would come off to you when you read it. I was just trying to give you what the corporation mind set will be. I hope that it works out for you and post the results. Remember do not give up the fight. The only thing you have to loose is paying "1/2" for it so all you have is gain to win!! It is not like your car is sitting at the dealership and you can not drive it so keep at it.

crooney1970 03-13-2015 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by seanjordan20 (Post 1559067)
Thanks for understanding my post I did not know how it would come off to you when you read it. I was just trying to give you what the corporation mind set will be. I hope that it works out for you and post the results. Remember do not give up the fight. The only thing you have to loose is paying "1/2" for it so all you have is gain to win!! It is not like your car is sitting at the dealership and you can not drive it so keep at it.

thank you! updates will follow

jimmy_surrey 03-14-2015 05:06 PM

I am on a same boat with 2004 X5 3.0L engine. The driver side seat burned a hole on the seat and on my pants. I called dealer I bought a car from but a Kid smartly declined and said "Oh really? I haven't heard about this at all" I will call BMWNA Monday Morning and see what they say. This is way out of warranty but this is a safety issue. I wouldn't call if my engine or tranny fails. But this is something went wrong during design. What do you guys recommend ?

crooney1970 03-18-2015 12:31 PM

Well.....the most BMW is willing to offer is to pay for half the seat replacement after haggling with them for over a week. I guess it's better than nothing at all. They said the offer to pay for half will stand as long as I own the car so no rush to get it fixed right away. Probably do it sooner than later however.

seanjordan20 03-18-2015 04:26 PM

That sucks. at least the are paying for half.

jimmy_surrey 03-19-2015 01:43 PM

I got a call from BMWNA and they want me to go to a dealer of my choice. I am expecting them to pay half but I need it to be fixed without hurting my pocket. In my case my seat, pants and my butt got burned so I am not going to spare them. I will Sue them if they do not fix it at no cost. I will go to small court and file a lawsuit. They will end up paying more and no kidding. Don't spare BMW guys. This is safety issue. Volvo is taking care of their customers as that happen to their cars as well

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jimmy_surrey 03-19-2015 01:44 PM

Don't just accept what they are offering. Just tell them that you will see them in court

crooney1970 03-19-2015 02:25 PM

well I don't have the repair scheduled till May 1. I guess I could try to really put it to them

jimmy_surrey 03-24-2015 11:10 PM

Update for X5 seat burn: Got a call from a Dealer. BMW canada is paying full 950$ for repair. Yeyyyyyyy

cmyachtie 05-23-2015 02:36 AM

Not so lucky here on the left coast, after much back and forth between me, dealer and BMW Canada, they declined to pay a cent towards my sourced seat(which am sure would have a hole if it were not for me turning the heater off in time)....
Very disappointed agAIN!! In BMW.

Notheld 05-29-2015 04:52 AM

Take them to small claims court for the max amount you can (NJ is $3K).
BMWUSA will send a local BMW dealership to deal with the arbitrator if it goes
this route. In the end they did pay for the entire repair.

cmyachtie 05-29-2015 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Notheld (Post 1563794)
Take them to small claims court for the max amount you can (NJ is $3K).
BMWUSA will send a local BMW dealership to deal with the arbitrator if it goes
this route. In the end they did pay for the entire repair.

Actually been thinking about that.........


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