General Consensus US / UK
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Originally Posted by meditek' post='893048' date='May 28 2009, 12:54 PM
No point modifying in the UK. It's already more than fast enough and anything else makes you a suspect for drug dealing! However, I would like more grunt from the pipes. They sound like a wet f...
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In the US parts and labour are a lot less expensive, as is the car itself. They can afford the mods. Also the dealers find it less easy to wriggle out of warranty claims.
You only have to clean your windscreen with non OEM stuff here to find the dealers trying to screw you.
You only have to clean your windscreen with non OEM stuff here to find the dealers trying to screw you.
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='894063' date='May 29 2009, 11:36 AM
In the US parts and labour are a lot less expensive, as is the car itself. They can afford the mods. Also the dealers find it less easy to wriggle out of warranty claims.
You only have to clean your windscreen with non OEM stuff here to find the dealers trying to screw you.
You only have to clean your windscreen with non OEM stuff here to find the dealers trying to screw you.
Yep, you US guys, the dealers here charge ?128/hour = $204/ hour rounded up to the hour for their 'labour'. They also scam you using the BMW worktime figures. Say the 'book' says the job is 4 hours. They rush it in 3 by missing 'unimportant' stuff and charging you for 4 then adding stuff like screenwash which you don't need in addition to charging twice the going rate for oil. I always take my own oil now.
Originally Posted by meditek' post='894173' date='May 29 2009, 02:34 PM
LOl, much as you can run a bimmer from giving driving lessons - dives for cover...
Yep, you US guys, the dealers here charge ?128/hour = $204/ hour rounded up to the hour for their 'labour'. They also scam you using the BMW worktime figures. Say the 'book' says the job is 4 hours. They rush it in 3 by missing 'unimportant' stuff and charging you for 4 then adding stuff like screenwash which you don't need in addition to charging twice the going rate for oil. I always take my own oil now.
Yep, you US guys, the dealers here charge ?128/hour = $204/ hour rounded up to the hour for their 'labour'. They also scam you using the BMW worktime figures. Say the 'book' says the job is 4 hours. They rush it in 3 by missing 'unimportant' stuff and charging you for 4 then adding stuff like screenwash which you don't need in addition to charging twice the going rate for oil. I always take my own oil now.
that is how the dealerships save time/make money. Technicians are actually rated on how fast they complete a job. the faster the tech, the more jobs he complete in a day and the more money the dealer makes. this in turn is reflected in the techs paycheck..
Originally Posted by ncoleman' post='882135' date='May 18 2009, 08:31 PM
After spending a bit of time scrolling through several pics of both US and UK members on this forum, would I be correct in assuming the Guys and Gals in the US are more adventurous when it comes to modifying their cars. Is it that because the majority of 5 series owners in the UK are running company vehicles or are we just a bit boring????? 
Or is that we see the 5 Series as a stunning and capable car in its own rights and dont see the need to spoil it looks?

Or is that we see the 5 Series as a stunning and capable car in its own rights and dont see the need to spoil it looks?
Its the system here that doesn't encourage modifying a car much... IMO
cheers
Originally Posted by E60714' post='882505' date='May 18 2009, 08:52 PM
It seems very few people outside the US really have tuneable cars. Most are on diesel and that also 520's. So for exterior mods, there's no problem, but outside of a sprint boost, is there really anything worth the money to improve the performance?
That being said, it just seems that people on this board in Europe have non-modded cars. I'm sure the 540 or whatever they have in Europe that's the top of the line model, has owners that mod them.
That being said, it just seems that people on this board in Europe have non-modded cars. I'm sure the 540 or whatever they have in Europe that's the top of the line model, has owners that mod them.
Not true at all, its just that the more global population that mod cars arent on this forum...go check out the m5board and see just a bit of what goes on in europe, there are many tuners and modders for performace cars and they have some great setups...... and ofcourse in the middle east, they are huge modders, you will see every type of car with anything you can imagine bolted on or stitched into.... the world is quite wealthy and they surely spend it just as we do here, do you not think that in Germany they drive 550i's? or M5s? or Ruf Porsche's or Ferrari's or Koenigsegg and so on....Europe builds them and surely enjoys them, just like us.... Contributors
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Originally Posted by meditek' post='894173' date='May 29 2009, 06:34 PM
LOl, much as you can run a bimmer from giving driving lessons - dives for cover...
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='894804' date='May 30 2009, 09:46 AM
But I had to sell my wife and daughter to buy the bimmer.......................... 

1. We don't worry about the number of wheels. Bimmers and Beamers can have four here.
2. BMW is often referred to as a 'Bad Man's Wagon' particularly when..
3. it is black all over (and er inside), has black windows and chrome wheels because...
4. it usually belongs to a drug dealer of the same hue which gives him...
5. street cred which...
6. also makes the cops reluctant to stop them because they can't see inside which means...
7. there is a danger they may stop a non-caucasian and be grounded for harassment so...
8. blacked out bimmers/beamers are avoided by respectable Brits except for those who...
9. don't want to be stopped by our 'police' who are now simply ....
10. social service representatives whose only weapon is a radar gun which ...
11. checks the racial orientation of the driver before the speed which will rarely be above 60 mph because..
12. unless it is around 3 AM there is so much traffic it is impossible to exceed this.
Originally Posted by meditek' post='898007' date='Jun 2 2009, 12:50 PM
I suppose the US guys need to know a bit more about UK BMW's :-
1. We don't worry about the number of wheels. Bimmers and Beamers can have four here.
2. BMW is often referred to as a 'Bad Man's Wagon' particularly when..
3. it is black all over (and er inside), has black windows and chrome wheels because...
4. it usually belongs to a drug dealer of the same hue which gives him...
5. street cred which...
6. also makes the cops reluctant to stop them because they can't see inside which means...
7. there is a danger they may stop a non-caucasian and be grounded for harassment so...
8. blacked out bimmers/beamers are avoided by respectable Brits except for those who...
9. don't want to be stopped by our 'police' who are now simply ....
10. social service representatives whose only weapon is a radar gun which ...
11. checks the racial orientation of the driver before the speed which will rarely be above 60 mph because..
12. unless it is around 3 AM there is so much traffic it is impossible to exceed this.
1. We don't worry about the number of wheels. Bimmers and Beamers can have four here.
2. BMW is often referred to as a 'Bad Man's Wagon' particularly when..
3. it is black all over (and er inside), has black windows and chrome wheels because...
4. it usually belongs to a drug dealer of the same hue which gives him...
5. street cred which...
6. also makes the cops reluctant to stop them because they can't see inside which means...
7. there is a danger they may stop a non-caucasian and be grounded for harassment so...
8. blacked out bimmers/beamers are avoided by respectable Brits except for those who...
9. don't want to be stopped by our 'police' who are now simply ....
10. social service representatives whose only weapon is a radar gun which ...
11. checks the racial orientation of the driver before the speed which will rarely be above 60 mph because..
12. unless it is around 3 AM there is so much traffic it is impossible to exceed this.
The scarey thing here is how true this post is, they even hid behind bushes with the speed guns in my area and jump out at the last minute. They were caught on camera doing it near where i live, they were bang to rights but they still denied it to the new reporters.
Originally Posted by Bob525D' post='898038' date='Jun 2 2009, 07:08 PM
The scarey thing here is how true this post is, they even hid behind bushes with the speed guns in my area and jump out at the last minute. They were caught on camera doing it near where i live, they were bang to rights but they still denied it to the new reporters.


