Function of 545i Butterfly valve in exhaust?
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550 LCI does not have it. This is the main area that the sport exhaust gets a different tone. Mod your pre LCI 550 flap, and you get the same sound, which is just a little more grunt down low.
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Originally Posted by sixcard' post='608660' date='Jun 23 2008, 07:58 PM
Hey Pennetta, did you look at your 535?
My 550 about same vintage as your 535 and does not have the butterfly.
My 550 about same vintage as your 535 and does not have the butterfly.
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Originally Posted by ObD' post='608717' date='Jun 23 2008, 10:01 PM
Just affects noise.
It gives better low end and better top end at the expense of a little more complication.
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I know on the R32 and the Porsche It DOES affect power , and there are dyno graphs available to prove it.
On the R32's (MK IV) in first and second gears ( since can't hit 45mph at all) it is closed and there is about a 10-15 hp drop from when it is open in 3,4,5, and god for bid 6th. There is also around a 15-20 ft lb increase in torque, when it is open. I know this sounds crazy , but apparently it puts a ton of back pressure on the engine. The first thing most R32 owners do is to crawl under the back in with a Fast tie and clamp it off, or go high tech and put a hidden 3 position switch in ( open all time, closed all time ( for high way cruising above 80mph), and normal 32-3500 rpm @ 45mph). If you removed it entirely, you would get an OBD II emissions fault. So if you put an aftermarket exhaust in ( drops some serious weight out over 70-100lbs difference) you still have to clamp the solenoid feed line with a fast tie. Another note is that it never really opens all the way , so a system with out one got pretty decent gains over the factory exhaust ( along with the weight drop)
On the 911's if you get the sport package or I think the X50 option ( this is from memory so don't quote me) there is a factory installed sport button that opens the exhaust up for more noise and power.
It may help for better fuel econ around the city, and lower noise, but with a detriment to power.
I forgot to look on my 08 535i sp pck, but if there is one on it, being a boosted motor I would assume it would make a big difference in the lower gears with back pressure and restriction.
On the R32's (MK IV) in first and second gears ( since can't hit 45mph at all) it is closed and there is about a 10-15 hp drop from when it is open in 3,4,5, and god for bid 6th. There is also around a 15-20 ft lb increase in torque, when it is open. I know this sounds crazy , but apparently it puts a ton of back pressure on the engine. The first thing most R32 owners do is to crawl under the back in with a Fast tie and clamp it off, or go high tech and put a hidden 3 position switch in ( open all time, closed all time ( for high way cruising above 80mph), and normal 32-3500 rpm @ 45mph). If you removed it entirely, you would get an OBD II emissions fault. So if you put an aftermarket exhaust in ( drops some serious weight out over 70-100lbs difference) you still have to clamp the solenoid feed line with a fast tie. Another note is that it never really opens all the way , so a system with out one got pretty decent gains over the factory exhaust ( along with the weight drop)
On the 911's if you get the sport package or I think the X50 option ( this is from memory so don't quote me) there is a factory installed sport button that opens the exhaust up for more noise and power.
It may help for better fuel econ around the city, and lower noise, but with a detriment to power.
I forgot to look on my 08 535i sp pck, but if there is one on it, being a boosted motor I would assume it would make a big difference in the lower gears with back pressure and restriction.
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Originally Posted by bigbadbull' post='609294' date='Jun 24 2008, 04:57 PM
I know on the R32 and the Porsche It DOES affect power , and there are dyno graphs available to prove it.
BMW engines are in a high state of tune and you need a dyno to know if you have extracted more power out of them because of modifications. Other than the turbo 335/535/X6 its hard to get appreciable increase in power even with dyno tuning, even if Dinan is doing it.
I just replaced my Harley exhaust system to get better sound and more power. I bought a balanced kit from S&S (kind of like Dinan of the Harley world) that included mufflers and a low restriction air intake, S&S did the dyno time and I just bolted everything on.
If you want more details let me know.
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That is kinda the point why I have yet to put a after market exhust on my car, most manufactures say the 545/550 one will work , or a custom build magna flow... but they really have not taken the "Flapper" in to effect especially on the I6tt... How will this effect the back pressure and over all tune.
Also Do you get an OBD II code if you take out all the solinoid / air pump/ gass line out, or do you just cap it/ crimp it... and ignore it.
Also Do you get an OBD II code if you take out all the solinoid / air pump/ gass line out, or do you just cap it/ crimp it... and ignore it.