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Old 03-30-2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mhs525
I have a 545i and consistently get between 20.5 and 21.5 MPG. My commute is half highway half inner city (with a god damn light every 50 ft). I used to get 21.5 to 23.0 MPG when my commute was more highway. I don't drive the car hard but I do use the power to get away from traffic at lights or build speed to merge on to the highway.

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Excellent point! Thank you.

I could also say that I have 11.2/100 l/km



Same. Although I wouldn't say that I have a light foot.
Well either I have a heavy foot or my car is a guzzler. I think it's the former.
Old 03-30-2010 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
Well either I have a heavy foot or my car is a guzzler. I think it's the former.
You live in NY. I would say it's the traffic
Old 03-31-2010 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol
Oil is a global commodity and the cost to refine is not a major variable. The variance in fuel prices you highlight is driven almost exclusively by taxes. European countries tax motor fuels much more than the US and other countries do.
Most of these European countries also have an extensive public transportation system wherefore in the US public transportation is almost non-existent, outside of major cities. The US is far too spread out and people generally drive longer distances just for work alone. I don't see how the US government could impose a $3.00 per gallon tax without offering plausible alternatives. Our gas may cost less, but we sure consume a lot more and in the end, we end paying about as much as our European brothers both in real time and in diminished value to our cars because of the higher mileage count.
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Originally Posted by 545iBMW
You live in NY. I would say it's the traffic
I take the subway to work. 99 percent of my miles are not in Manhattan but in mixed highway and suburban driving. I drive a lot on the weekends and do 18k-20k miles per year. I think it's a heavy foot.
Old 04-01-2010 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa
Most of these European countries also have an extensive public transportation system wherefore in the US public transportation is almost non-existent, outside of major cities. The US is far too spread out and people generally drive longer distances just for work alone. I don't see how the US government could impose a $3.00 per gallon tax without offering plausible alternatives. Our gas may cost less, but we sure consume a lot more and in the end, we end paying about as much as our European brothers both in real time and in diminished value to our cars because of the higher mileage count.
That is an excellent point, I hadn't considered, that overall the costs may be the same US/Europe based on consumption.

Would be interesting to know how US drivers would react to an overnight tax-hike on fuel (like in some parts of Europe) amounting to 10-30%.

In Europe (with the possible exception of France) folks will take any crap from the government, we all just follow like sheep, 15% increase in fuel ho-hum !
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Originally Posted by higher
Would be interesting to know how US drivers would react to an overnight tax-hike on fuel (like in some parts of Europe) amounting to 10-30%.
Open rebellion!
Old 04-01-2010 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa
Most of these European countries also have an extensive public transportation system wherefore in the US public transportation is almost non-existent, outside of major cities. The US is far too spread out and people generally drive longer distances just for work alone. I don't see how the US government could impose a $3.00 per gallon tax without offering plausible alternatives. Our gas may cost less, but we sure consume a lot more and in the end, we end paying about as much as our European brothers both in real time and in diminished value to our cars because of the higher mileage count.
Here in Belgium, everything is really close to each other, but public transportation is still awful :
I live really close to where I work. It is around 14 km.
By car it takes me around 20 minutes (without traffic jams 15 or less), by bicycle 40 minutes and by bus (I'm not kidding) 50 minutes.

Also paying as much as us, European brothers :
Driving a 550i costs on road tax alone already $3000 each year, so around 22000 miles in petrol just before we would be able to start the car.
I really would like to have a V8, but I'll stick to my 520D for the moment.
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