Frozen Gas Line???
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Hey Veight
"So i released the brake and pumped the gas and tried again."
Never ever "pump the gas" on a new BMW when starting it.
Moisture can come into the gasoline thank if temps changes huge
and the gas tank is almost empty.
In the winter time it's smart to have the gas (diesel) tank pretty full
all the time.
Don't put any ethanol in the gas tank either.
Your cars engine is not planned for that.
Check out your gasoline dealer for what shit they are selling.
A proper BMW E60 i needs 98 octane gasoline, not the shit sold in the US.
"So i released the brake and pumped the gas and tried again."
Never ever "pump the gas" on a new BMW when starting it.
Moisture can come into the gasoline thank if temps changes huge
and the gas tank is almost empty.
In the winter time it's smart to have the gas (diesel) tank pretty full
all the time.
Don't put any ethanol in the gas tank either.
Your cars engine is not planned for that.
Check out your gasoline dealer for what shit they are selling.
A proper BMW E60 i needs 98 octane gasoline, not the shit sold in the US.
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='751423' date='Dec 23 2008, 03:37 PM
Hey Veight
"So i released the brake and pumped the gas and tried again."
Never ever "pump the gas" on a new BMW when starting it.
Moisture can come into the gasoline thank if temps changes huge
and the gas tank is almost empty.
In the winter time it's smart to have the gas (diesel) tank pretty full
all the time.
Don't put any ethanol in the gas tank either.
Your cars engine is not planned for that.
Check out your gasoline dealer for what shit they are selling.
A proper BMW E60 i needs 98 octane gasoline, not the shit sold in the US.
Hey why act like an ass.
I guess your 98 shit over there doesn't stink.
Well i think i covered the fact that the tank was full.
So i should drive the car to finland and fill up there each time i need gas. Seems sensible
Dude, all gas here in the US has ethanol. I always use premium and Shell BP and Mobil all have ethanol.
The reason your fuel goes to "98 Octane" is because you guys calculate octane differently.
your 98 octane is our 91.
And, by the way, you have to pump the pedal if the gas line is frozen. No other way to start it.
Act like an adult and watch your language.
"So i released the brake and pumped the gas and tried again."
Never ever "pump the gas" on a new BMW when starting it.
Moisture can come into the gasoline thank if temps changes huge
and the gas tank is almost empty.
In the winter time it's smart to have the gas (diesel) tank pretty full
all the time.
Don't put any ethanol in the gas tank either.
Your cars engine is not planned for that.
Check out your gasoline dealer for what shit they are selling.
A proper BMW E60 i needs 98 octane gasoline, not the shit sold in the US.
Hey why act like an ass.
I guess your 98 shit over there doesn't stink.
Well i think i covered the fact that the tank was full.
So i should drive the car to finland and fill up there each time i need gas. Seems sensible
Dude, all gas here in the US has ethanol. I always use premium and Shell BP and Mobil all have ethanol.
The reason your fuel goes to "98 Octane" is because you guys calculate octane differently.
your 98 octane is our 91.
And, by the way, you have to pump the pedal if the gas line is frozen. No other way to start it.
Act like an adult and watch your language.
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I think the options what happened were that for some reason there was water already in the system in your car or then the previous fuel station, which you used, had for some reason some water mixed with the fuel (maybe they have a leak somewhere and water is leaking into their system or something like that).
Maybe get you car checked just for sure (since it is working now okay then it wasn't that big deal anyway)?
Maybe get you car checked just for sure (since it is working now okay then it wasn't that big deal anyway)?
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Originally Posted by Miikka' post='751841' date='Dec 24 2008, 01:36 AM
I think the options what happened were that for some reason there was water already in the system in your car or then the previous fuel station, which you used, had for some reason some water mixed with the fuel (maybe they have a leak somewhere and water is leaking into their system or something like that).
Maybe get you car checked just for sure (since it is working now okay then it wasn't that big deal anyway)?
Maybe get you car checked just for sure (since it is working now okay then it wasn't that big deal anyway)?
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From BMW SIB on Ethanol (SIB (130106)
Under certain environmental conditions, mainly lower ambient temperatures, ethanol separates from gasoline/alcohol mixture and absorbs water. The ethanol absorbed water molecules are heavier then gasoline or ethanol, they remain at the bottom of fuel tank and when introduced into combustion process they tend to form an extremely lean mixture resulting in misfire, rough idle and cold starting problems.
Under certain environmental conditions, mainly lower ambient temperatures, ethanol separates from gasoline/alcohol mixture and absorbs water. The ethanol absorbed water molecules are heavier then gasoline or ethanol, they remain at the bottom of fuel tank and when introduced into combustion process they tend to form an extremely lean mixture resulting in misfire, rough idle and cold starting problems.
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Originally Posted by Veight' post='751994' date='Dec 24 2008, 05:10 PM
Yeah, thats what I figured. I just hated to work the starter like that. It cranked for a bit until I realized I had to remove my foot from the brake. If this happens again I will try another gas station.
as an excuse I'll give you a true story.We did have a cottage up north in Lapland the 70's.
One Christmas it was minus 43 C (-45 F) outside and the car wouldn't start
since actually the whole engine was as ice.
My step dad did put up a small bonfire under the engine to warmed it up,
and after a while the car (a brand new M-B 220) did start.
But the gasoline was not frozen.
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I have never had this happen, but I always keep my gas tank well above the 1/2 tank mark. I concur with the suggestions that a nearly empty tank can introduce moisture in the gas lines possibly causing some freeze up. This would be true with any brand car and not exclusively BMW.