Eyebrow lights and dealers
12-29-2007, 08:19 AM
#11
Contributors
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chrish99' post='511324' date='Dec 28 2007, 12:59 PM
Hi guys
I have bought an 04 5 series (E60) in the UK and have noticed the orange eyebrow lights are off no matter if the side or headlights are on. Ive done a bit of reading around on the forum and a lot of people seem to be blaming the CIP software where a bug in version 23 of the software turned them off and a software update is needed. a bit more info here http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/bullet...mp/B631706g.htm
I have went to the local bmw dealers in the UK and the first didnt even know what orange lights i was talking about and the second has said that my car when build had them turned off as default and want to charge me ?90 to change a software setting to turn them on.
I was wondering if what he is saying is true or whether there is a bug in the software that is stopping my eyebrow lights from coming on? Also any experiences of getting this fixed with dealers in the UK would be appreciated as they dont seem to have clue.
I have bought an 04 5 series (E60) in the UK and have noticed the orange eyebrow lights are off no matter if the side or headlights are on. Ive done a bit of reading around on the forum and a lot of people seem to be blaming the CIP software where a bug in version 23 of the software turned them off and a software update is needed. a bit more info here http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/bullet...mp/B631706g.htm
I have went to the local bmw dealers in the UK and the first didnt even know what orange lights i was talking about and the second has said that my car when build had them turned off as default and want to charge me ?90 to change a software setting to turn them on.
I was wondering if what he is saying is true or whether there is a bug in the software that is stopping my eyebrow lights from coming on? Also any experiences of getting this fixed with dealers in the UK would be appreciated as they dont seem to have clue.
They have always designed to be on in the UK. It is a fault and can only be corrected by a dealer. I don't know why dealers try so hard to avoid fixing well known problems!!! My guess is that you have to deal with the 'desk-monkeys' first who really don't have a technical clue. Indeed, I've often found the so-called experts know little too!
01-02-2008, 08:35 AM
#12
Members
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Solihull, West Midlands
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: E60 530i M Sports saloon, Titanium Silver, Black Dakota leather, Automatic gearbox, Auto-dim int + folding ext mirrors, Dark polar wood (high gloss), Advanced automatic a/c, Head-up display, M rear spoiler, Blue tooth and Media pack, 18" M alloys RFT
Chris99
I also want mine turned on.
I have a 05 plate 530i M Sports auto, and really like the look on the newer cars that have them activated.
On mine, the wiring, connectors and buld holders are all present, but they don't have any bulbs in them.
I have got my car booked in at the local dealer on Friday, for a couple of things, and will ask them to sort this out also.
Will keep you updated on how I get on.... fingers crossed... T
I also want mine turned on.
I have a 05 plate 530i M Sports auto, and really like the look on the newer cars that have them activated.
On mine, the wiring, connectors and buld holders are all present, but they don't have any bulbs in them.
I have got my car booked in at the local dealer on Friday, for a couple of things, and will ask them to sort this out also.
Will keep you updated on how I get on.... fingers crossed... T
01-02-2008, 10:55 AM
#13
Contributors
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Taz530iM' post='512808' date='Jan 2 2008, 05:35 PM
Chris99
I also want mine turned on.
I have a 05 plate 530i M Sports auto, and really like the look on the newer cars that have them activated.
On mine, the wiring, connectors and buld holders are all present, but they don't have any bulbs in them.
I have got my car booked in at the local dealer on Friday, for a couple of things, and will ask them to sort this out also.
Will keep you updated on how I get on.... fingers crossed... T
I also want mine turned on.
I have a 05 plate 530i M Sports auto, and really like the look on the newer cars that have them activated.
On mine, the wiring, connectors and buld holders are all present, but they don't have any bulbs in them.
I have got my car booked in at the local dealer on Friday, for a couple of things, and will ask them to sort this out also.
Will keep you updated on how I get on.... fingers crossed... T
01-03-2008, 10:23 AM
#14
Members
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The "eyebrow" lights are a codeable option - just like Car/Key memory options.
Dealer should be able to sort for you in 10 mins - it's to do with changing the vehicle coding after updating software. (ZCS coding for older vehicles).
Any properly equipped independent specialist is also well able to set this up for you.
Kind Regards,
Eddie.
Dealer should be able to sort for you in 10 mins - it's to do with changing the vehicle coding after updating software. (ZCS coding for older vehicles).
Any properly equipped independent specialist is also well able to set this up for you.
Kind Regards,
Eddie.
01-03-2008, 11:43 AM
#15
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
hi guys
i have got my car back from the dealer and so just a quick update. for a few of the above posts, mine did have the LEDs in there and i think it was just a software issue. i know when i was trying to get some info, the bmw customer information line were very helpful (tel 0800 325 600) and they may be able to tell you whether uk car where made without bulbs in as they were able to tell me that no uk models were built with them disabled in the software (contrary to what the dealer had told me). might be worth a try. also, in my case the software version i had was known to have the bug where the lights were turned off. there is a goo dpost on here about access the bmw menus in the idrive where it tells you your software version and i think version 23 and 24 have this bug though someone else may know more
in my case the reprograming took 5 hours though this was a full software update but now the lights are on and i have a new colour scheme for the idrive menus which is nice. Also, rather strangely, they have replaced my light switch in the car which turns the lights to automatic/off/side/head. i didnt think there was anything wrong with my old one but this one is definately different, rather strange but at the moment i dont have the energy to deal with the dealer again to ask why!
I also asked the dealer to install the mp3 software for me at the same time which they didnt do or at least it wont play the mp3 cds i have made.. even after several attempts following the guides on the forum. i might start a new (or if anyone knows the answer as i cannot seem to find it on the forum) about now to check the idrive to see if mp3 software is installed?
cheers
chris
i have got my car back from the dealer and so just a quick update. for a few of the above posts, mine did have the LEDs in there and i think it was just a software issue. i know when i was trying to get some info, the bmw customer information line were very helpful (tel 0800 325 600) and they may be able to tell you whether uk car where made without bulbs in as they were able to tell me that no uk models were built with them disabled in the software (contrary to what the dealer had told me). might be worth a try. also, in my case the software version i had was known to have the bug where the lights were turned off. there is a goo dpost on here about access the bmw menus in the idrive where it tells you your software version and i think version 23 and 24 have this bug though someone else may know more
in my case the reprograming took 5 hours though this was a full software update but now the lights are on and i have a new colour scheme for the idrive menus which is nice. Also, rather strangely, they have replaced my light switch in the car which turns the lights to automatic/off/side/head. i didnt think there was anything wrong with my old one but this one is definately different, rather strange but at the moment i dont have the energy to deal with the dealer again to ask why!
I also asked the dealer to install the mp3 software for me at the same time which they didnt do or at least it wont play the mp3 cds i have made.. even after several attempts following the guides on the forum. i might start a new (or if anyone knows the answer as i cannot seem to find it on the forum) about now to check the idrive to see if mp3 software is installed?
cheers
chris
01-03-2008, 12:03 PM
#16
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
Posts: 17,310
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
My Ride: G30 M550i
Model Year: 2018
Originally Posted by chrish99' post='513340' date='Jan 3 2008, 03:43 PM
Also, rather strangely, they have replaced my light switch in the car which turns the lights to automatic/off/side/head. i didnt think there was anything wrong with my old one but this one is definately different, rather strange but at the moment i dont have the energy to deal with the dealer again to ask why!
01-03-2008, 12:06 PM
#17
Contributors
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by chrish99' post='513340' date='Jan 3 2008, 08:43 PM
hi guys
i have got my car back from the dealer and so just a quick update. for a few of the above posts, mine did have the LEDs in there and i think it was just a software issue. i know when i was trying to get some info, the bmw customer information line were very helpful (tel 0800 325 600) and they may be able to tell you whether uk car where made without bulbs in as they were able to tell me that no uk models were built with them disabled in the software (contrary to what the dealer had told me). might be worth a try. also, in my case the software version i had was known to have the bug where the lights were turned off. there is a goo dpost on here about access the bmw menus in the idrive where it tells you your software version and i think version 23 and 24 have this bug though someone else may know more
in my case the reprograming took 5 hours though this was a full software update but now the lights are on and i have a new colour scheme for the idrive menus which is nice. Also, rather strangely, they have replaced my light switch in the car which turns the lights to automatic/off/side/head. i didnt think there was anything wrong with my old one but this one is definately different, rather strange but at the moment i dont have the energy to deal with the dealer again to ask why!
I also asked the dealer to install the mp3 software for me at the same time which they didnt do or at least it wont play the mp3 cds i have made.. even after several attempts following the guides on the forum. i might start a new (or if anyone knows the answer as i cannot seem to find it on the forum) about now to check the idrive to see if mp3 software is installed?
i have got my car back from the dealer and so just a quick update. for a few of the above posts, mine did have the LEDs in there and i think it was just a software issue. i know when i was trying to get some info, the bmw customer information line were very helpful (tel 0800 325 600) and they may be able to tell you whether uk car where made without bulbs in as they were able to tell me that no uk models were built with them disabled in the software (contrary to what the dealer had told me). might be worth a try. also, in my case the software version i had was known to have the bug where the lights were turned off. there is a goo dpost on here about access the bmw menus in the idrive where it tells you your software version and i think version 23 and 24 have this bug though someone else may know more
in my case the reprograming took 5 hours though this was a full software update but now the lights are on and i have a new colour scheme for the idrive menus which is nice. Also, rather strangely, they have replaced my light switch in the car which turns the lights to automatic/off/side/head. i didnt think there was anything wrong with my old one but this one is definately different, rather strange but at the moment i dont have the energy to deal with the dealer again to ask why!
I also asked the dealer to install the mp3 software for me at the same time which they didnt do or at least it wont play the mp3 cds i have made.. even after several attempts following the guides on the forum. i might start a new (or if anyone knows the answer as i cannot seem to find it on the forum) about now to check the idrive to see if mp3 software is installed?
Perhaps they had to replace the light switch module during the coding? AFAIK the coding won't work correctly unless all of the modules etc. report 'normal'...
01-03-2008, 12:08 PM
#18
Contributors
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rudy' post='513344' date='Jan 3 2008, 09:03 PM
I'm betting they didn't replace the switch, they just pushed on it accidentally which caused it to recess into the dashboard. If I'm correct, you should be able to simply pull the switch back out and it'll snap back into place and look just like it did before...
01-03-2008, 12:17 PM
#19
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
cheers guys. this light switch seems to stick out further from the dash than i remember the old one doing so maybe the old one was pushed into the dash and theyve fixed it or maybe broken but i guess the new one is just fine lol
for the mp3 software, i know a few people have said the mp3 software module may not be nessisarily installed when the sofwtare is updated as i didnt previsouly have it installed and also that bmw dont recommend the mp3 update for early versions due to 'incompatabilities' which may be right also. at the min, when i insert an mp3 cd, in the multimedia menu, the CD 'button' turns from a grey, non-clickable button to a white, clickable button when the cd is detected which when clicked something like the format or media is unsupported is shown on the screen. With the previous version of the software, he CD button just stayed grey, non-clickable? not sure if that means anything?
as a side point, i have been thinking about installing an ipod interface in place of the cd changer. is the mp3 software needed for this to work and do you think this will work in my model. i currently have the cd changer and sat nav fitted from new which seems to be important.
cheers
for the mp3 software, i know a few people have said the mp3 software module may not be nessisarily installed when the sofwtare is updated as i didnt previsouly have it installed and also that bmw dont recommend the mp3 update for early versions due to 'incompatabilities' which may be right also. at the min, when i insert an mp3 cd, in the multimedia menu, the CD 'button' turns from a grey, non-clickable button to a white, clickable button when the cd is detected which when clicked something like the format or media is unsupported is shown on the screen. With the previous version of the software, he CD button just stayed grey, non-clickable? not sure if that means anything?
as a side point, i have been thinking about installing an ipod interface in place of the cd changer. is the mp3 software needed for this to work and do you think this will work in my model. i currently have the cd changer and sat nav fitted from new which seems to be important.
cheers
01-03-2008, 12:27 PM
#20
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA
Posts: 17,310
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
My Ride: G30 M550i
Model Year: 2018
Originally Posted by chrish99' post='513349' date='Jan 3 2008, 04:17 PM
cheers guys. this light switch seems to stick out further from the dash than i remember the old one doing so maybe the old one was pushed into the dash and theyve fixed it or maybe broken but i guess the new one is just fine lol
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DavaiLave
E60 Discussion
13
08-02-2022 02:16 AM
milhouse4u
Private Member Classifieds
1
04-22-2015 04:43 PM
rizwan1377
E60 Discussion
2
04-05-2015 05:22 PM