Evo Rally Fan to 535d M Sport (NOOB)
04-03-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='263998' date='Apr 3 2006, 02:41 PM
Not the top gear track M3 / 535d both went round in 1.31.8
04-04-2006, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='264232' date='Apr 3 2006, 11:54 PM
any other tracks where the 535d is as quick. Nurburgring, hockenheim, monza perhaps ? or just that one
and .... they pulled the same time....
Weird isn't it....
Trouble is ... with any other track times your generally looking at modded / race tuned cars, dissimilar conditions and a range of driver ability...
I've looked for 'ring' laptimes, but the source data is not clear.. maybe there is an official record site in germany ???
If you have alternative times I'd be interested to see them.. as you know I have a thing for the e46 M3 (understatement), but am also somewhat impressed that a big old bus like the 535d could get even close to an M..... (especially that one...I saw a black 02 plate M3 today and was completely jealous).
04-04-2006, 07:34 AM
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i have all the times for the m3 but none for the 535d, i guess its because its a big heavy automatic with no lsd, that noone wants to drive it competitively around tracks
04-04-2006, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='264489' date='Apr 4 2006, 04:34 PM
i have all the times for the m3 but none for the 535d, i guess its because its a big heavy automatic with no lsd, that noone wants to drive it competitively around tracks
I wish there was more of this sort of testing to give a second opinion, but as you say the times for the 535d aren't out there because it isn't a competetive race car... (no-one really races unmodified M3's either).
I'd take issue with you on the HEAVY comment though the M5 is 1830kg, the 535d 1735Kg and the M3 1570Kg.
I had expect the weight difference between the diesel and the M to be MUCH greater than it actually is.....
04-04-2006, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='264503' date='Apr 4 2006, 04:55 PM
my m3 tipped the scales (factory car) at 1541kg... i need to ask sapkan to weight his car... BMW provides times for factory m3/m5/m6 runs
You can't just weigh someone elses car .. besides the fact that it would break the bathrooom scales.... what about the impact of optional equipment etc.....
04-04-2006, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='264510' date='Apr 4 2006, 04:05 PM
Those are BMW's website stats - I thought they would know what the unladen weight of their car was????
You can't just weigh someone elses car .. besides the fact that it would break the bathrooom scales.... what about the impact of optional equipment etc.....
You can't just weigh someone elses car .. besides the fact that it would break the bathrooom scales.... what about the impact of optional equipment etc.....
besides my car had every single possible extra
... you use industrial scales for that 
04-04-2006, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='264512' date='Apr 4 2006, 05:07 PM
bmw's fogires include a 70kg driver no?
besides my car had every single possible extra
... you use industrial scales for that
besides my car had every single possible extra
... you use industrial scales for that
04-04-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='264513' date='Apr 4 2006, 04:09 PM
No I think unladen weight is without driver - no matter how large....
