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Old 10-22-2009, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='1038350' date='Oct 22 2009, 02:53 PM
How many failures have there been as a result of this "low/free maintenance" I still see a lot of high mileage E39 and E46s running around and havent heard of that many people blowing out their engine or tranny due to not changing the oil as frequent.

Oh BTW what's Porsche's recommendation on oil change and flushes? Last I read in the manual my 987 shows 20K before the first oil change or 2 years!

I don't have data on E46 tranny's but Mike Miller of Roundel (BMW CCA) says that E46 steptronic's are definitely the week point of the car and there have been a lot of failures around 70-80k miles
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='1038228' date='Oct 22 2009, 12:27 PM
but your car is 08 so no need to change unless you done loads of mile already.
Oh sorry, I meant on my old 545i
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Originally Posted by 968turboS' post='1038156' date='Oct 22 2009, 10:46 AM
I think for $450, all they are doing is, draining old fluid and pumping in new one. I doubt they are changing the pan/filter for that. I would confirm with them and see what exactly they offer for $450. In either case, that is a pretty good price.
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You could be right, I will have to check up on that...
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='1038350' date='Oct 23 2009, 02:53 AM
How many failures have there been as a result of this "low/free maintenance" I still see a lot of high mileage E39 and E46s running around and havent heard of that many people blowing out their engine or tranny due to not changing the oil as frequent.

Oh BTW what's Porsche's recommendation on oil change and flushes? Last I read in the manual my 987 shows 20K before the first oil change or 2 years!
they will not blow out at all but the will loss allot of performance and hp over the years if they are not keep in tip top shape
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Just to add to this thread, I inspected the old pan yesterday and it looks like there were extremely fine metal shavings that were stuck to the magnets. So, in other words, there is metal wear but to get it all out, you need to drain your fluid and change your pan.
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How do you go about getting the old fluid out of the torque converter so that you can get a complete change?????


Originally Posted by 968turboS' post='1038794' date='Oct 23 2009, 06:57 AM
Just to add to this thread, I inspected the old pan yesterday and it looks like there were extremely fine metal shavings that were stuck to the magnets. So, in other words, there is metal wear but to get it all out, you need to drain your fluid and change your pan.
Regards.
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Originally Posted by 968turboS' post='1038794' date='Oct 23 2009, 07:57 PM
Just to add to this thread, I inspected the old pan yesterday and it looks like there were extremely fine metal shavings that were stuck to the magnets. So, in other words, there is metal wear but to get it all out, you need to drain your fluid and change your pan.
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Just spoke to my SA at my local dealership and strongly recommended against changing the fluid before 6yrs or 100K. He said that they will do it but will put in writing that they are not liable if the transmission fails after the change and customer is responsible.

Do this sound right? It sounds a little outlandish to me.
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Originally Posted by timsvulcan' post='1038889' date='Oct 24 2009, 12:05 AM
How do you go about getting the old fluid out of the torque converter so that you can get a complete change?????
with any oil change on a car, you will not get 100% all the oil out just like the engine.
There will alway be old oil inside.
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Originally Posted by 968turboS' post='1038391' date='Oct 22 2009, 03:33 PM
Actually, there hasn't been many engine related problems, but transmission problem are well documented. Quite a few of E46 transmission have failed. I frequent E46forums and also own one, so I know this 1st hand. I also bought this myth on my E39 and never changed the transmission fluid. At 130k, the car just stopped moving one day, I had to donate it .
As far as Porsche's interval, I doubt a single Porsche owner even drives 20k in 2 yrs, let alone leave the same oil in their car .
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I used to put in 15k miles/yr on my 911. My driving was limited from around May to the beginning of November and I practically lived in that car. I really wanted to enjoy the car and not just look at it in the garage. Anyway, I used to change the oil and transmission fluid before putting it away in the winter and then do it again in the spring when I woke her up. So, to summarize, I changed the tranny fluid twice per year and I changed the oil and filter 4 times a year (6 month span). If people can't afford that, then they shouldn't be driving a Porsche or BMW in the first place.


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