E60 Steering Issues
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Originally Posted by NeRwEEzy' post='376503' date='Jan 10 2007, 01:06 PM
my steering wheel feels a little light to me.. i think i get what youre saying about high speeds. sometimes at high speeds on the freeway it will feel that the car is moving sideways or something? i thought it was kinda weird when it happens but then i heard it also happens to some others.
In any event, I am not too pleased with this particular aspect of the handling of an otherwise superb driving machine.
Does it feel like your car is in a medium/strong cross wind or "dirty air" yet you don't actually have to move the steering wheel to correct the course?
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Alexeimoscow,
New tyres will always feel lighter on the steering than the old ones, whatever the make.
My experience with runflats is that they are VERY sensitive to tyre pressures. At the recommended pressures, the car tramlines a lot on anything other than very smooth roads. Increasing the pressures made this effect worse. I am currently running 3psi less than recommended all round, and the tramlining is improved markedly. My next step is to drop another 2 or 3 psi and see what difference that makes. In your case, it may be worth dropping your pressures a bit and see if it makes a difference. Make sure that your pressure gauge is accurate, or at least consistent with a few of your mates' gauges.
New tyres will always feel lighter on the steering than the old ones, whatever the make.
My experience with runflats is that they are VERY sensitive to tyre pressures. At the recommended pressures, the car tramlines a lot on anything other than very smooth roads. Increasing the pressures made this effect worse. I am currently running 3psi less than recommended all round, and the tramlining is improved markedly. My next step is to drop another 2 or 3 psi and see what difference that makes. In your case, it may be worth dropping your pressures a bit and see if it makes a difference. Make sure that your pressure gauge is accurate, or at least consistent with a few of your mates' gauges.
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FWIW, I have only had my e60 a week (530d) and I have found the steering very heavy at low speed. Seems OK as the speed picks up, but parking and 'mini' roudabouts take a lot of effort. Could it be down to the wheel/tyre combo? Running 245/40/18F and 275/35/18R.
Tyre pressures are OK and the only other 530d I drove seemed fine with the same size front tyres??
Tyre pressures are OK and the only other 530d I drove seemed fine with the same size front tyres??
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FWIW, I test drove a couple of E61s with active steering before buying my E60 without active steering.
I can't compare road feel because the E61s had M Sport suspension and very low profile wheels so they tramlined a lot (plus I'm not that consciously sensitive to steering feel).
Active steering felt pleasantly light at parking speeds, and maybe a touch light at speed, but overall I certainly didn't have the "HATE IT" impression that journalists seem to find so trendy. My non active steering car is perfectly well weighted at parking speeds - I feel no need for it to be lighter, although I can see the advantage to changing the gearing so I don't have to move the wheel so much. At motorways speeds I find the steering a touch too heavy - loading up through a tight slip road between motorways and it can be quite an effort to heave the wheel over. Absolutely perfectly weighted though for fast A road driving.
I can't compare road feel because the E61s had M Sport suspension and very low profile wheels so they tramlined a lot (plus I'm not that consciously sensitive to steering feel).
Active steering felt pleasantly light at parking speeds, and maybe a touch light at speed, but overall I certainly didn't have the "HATE IT" impression that journalists seem to find so trendy. My non active steering car is perfectly well weighted at parking speeds - I feel no need for it to be lighter, although I can see the advantage to changing the gearing so I don't have to move the wheel so much. At motorways speeds I find the steering a touch too heavy - loading up through a tight slip road between motorways and it can be quite an effort to heave the wheel over. Absolutely perfectly weighted though for fast A road driving.
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Appreciate everyone's input. I will tinker with PSI and see what that does. Bottom line RF are garbage, however dealer has agreed to swap my choppy/prematurely worn GY for another set of RF only (as dumb as this proposition sounded, I didn't have a choice). This time around, they threw in a set of Bridgestone. My concerns followed shortly after.
Ironically, they are going to purchase a new set of GY and see if this alleviates my handling concerns.
I am still convinced "Servotronic" is doing something it is not supposed to be i.e. loosening at higher speeds.
I just heard Servotronic is an option in E.U., can someone confirm? How does the non-Servotronic E60 drive/feel?
Ironically, they are going to purchase a new set of GY and see if this alleviates my handling concerns.
I am still convinced "Servotronic" is doing something it is not supposed to be i.e. loosening at higher speeds.
I just heard Servotronic is an option in E.U., can someone confirm? How does the non-Servotronic E60 drive/feel?
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Originally Posted by DBU' post='376890' date='Jan 11 2007, 11:09 AM
What is "tramlining" they asked from the other side of the Pond.
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Thanks for the definition of 'tramlining' (which my US spell checker refuse to acknowledge).
This is exactly what my E60 suffers from. In the interest of perhaps finding a cure, or at least minimize this effect, I suggest anybody with this symptom post with following info:
Car detail: (year, model)
Sport Package: (yes/no)
Tires: (brand and size)
Miles on tires:
Tire pressure:
Active Steering: (yes/no)
Remarks:
Here is my data:
Car detail: 2007 530i
Sport Package: No
Tires: Original Goodyear Eagle RS-A 225/R17
Miles on tires: 6,500
Tire pressure: 29 - 36
Active Steering: No
Remarks: Feels like strong side wind affecting the car whenever I drive at speed on concrete freeways with grooves (typical for So. California). Experimenting with reduced tire pressures, but the jury is still out.
This is exactly what my E60 suffers from. In the interest of perhaps finding a cure, or at least minimize this effect, I suggest anybody with this symptom post with following info:
Car detail: (year, model)
Sport Package: (yes/no)
Tires: (brand and size)
Miles on tires:
Tire pressure:
Active Steering: (yes/no)
Remarks:
Here is my data:
Car detail: 2007 530i
Sport Package: No
Tires: Original Goodyear Eagle RS-A 225/R17
Miles on tires: 6,500
Tire pressure: 29 - 36
Active Steering: No
Remarks: Feels like strong side wind affecting the car whenever I drive at speed on concrete freeways with grooves (typical for So. California). Experimenting with reduced tire pressures, but the jury is still out.
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Originally Posted by alexeimoscow' post='376915' date='Jan 11 2007, 11:52 AM
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Have you experienced this on your E60? What brand tires?
Have you experienced this on your E60? What brand tires?
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