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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by urbo73' date='Dec 2 2004, 02:25 PM
. If you are stuck in snow, you want more traction control so you turn on DTC at the expense off less DSC (DTC + DBC).

Though it seems counterintuitive, turning off the DTC actually helps you get out of the snow. I experienced this numerous times last winter in my E39. Sometimes you need to spin the wheels, or let one wheel spin while the other digs in, to get out of the snow.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by robg' date='Dec 2 2004, 05:05 PM
[quote name='urbo73' date='Dec 2 2004, 02:25 PM']. If you are stuck in snow, you want more traction control so you turn on DTC at the expense off less DSC (DTC + DBC).

Though it seems counterintuitive, turning off the DTC actually helps you get out of the snow. I experienced this numerous times last winter in my E39. Sometimes you need to spin the wheels, or let one wheel spin while the other digs in, to get out of the snow.
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This is true, but I found it more true on FWD cars than on RWD cars, since on a FWD you can dig out better my jerking the steering wheel while burning some rubber. Nothing like smell of rubber and snow!

But when you have slippery or light snow, DTC will actually work. It's really a combo and use as needed. Both at times.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by urbo73' date='Dec 2 2004, 07:29 PM
I wanted to add that the reason I don't like Active Steering is for a similar reason. I wish I could turn it off or on. Then maybe I'd get the chance to get used to it. I don't like the fact that I have to dial in opposite lock of varying degrees as my speed varies - just seems counterintuitive to me. If AS had an on/off I would have gotten it with the sports pkg and messed with it on to learn it and see if I could get used to it.
Indeed - it's perfectly feasible for the AS to be adjustable in iDrive, i.e. change sensitivity, assistance etc. - even disabling

In the UK the AS is always a separate option, even on the Sport. From what I know the US sport option adds a whole package of options...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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FWIW - Car and Driver gets better track times with the controls shut off. You will get faster 0-60 times with a little wheelspin. I had an adjustable TC on my last car. You dialed in the amount of slip from 5-20% and it was good to have a little slip on dry pavement...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by colejl' date='Dec 2 2004, 06:30 PM
[quote name='urbo73' date='Dec 2 2004, 07:29 PM']I wanted to add that the reason I don't like Active Steering is for a similar reason. I wish I could turn it off or on. Then maybe I'd get the chance to get used to it. I don't like the fact that I have to dial in opposite lock of varying degrees as my speed varies - just seems counterintuitive to me. If AS had an on/off I would have gotten it with the sports pkg and messed with it on to learn it and see if I could get used to it.
Indeed - it's perfectly feasible for the AS to be adjustable in iDrive, i.e. change sensitivity, assistance etc. - even disabling

In the UK the AS is always a separate option, even on the Sport. From what I know the US sport option adds a whole package of options...
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Hopefully they'll add this in the MY06 E60's!
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Don't remind me That's why I didn't get the sports package. Like I said in another thread, US = cheaper prices + less flexibility on options and Europe is the opposite. Us Yanks are too stupid to choose options so BMW combines them for us..
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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I usually have the system on and don't turn it off, even though I know how to drive without. It provides you with more safety. On track I will definately turn off the complete DSC!
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