DSC affecting manual clutch take-up
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Originally Posted by Mercy' date='May 27 2005, 06:22 AM
jsal, I know about the CDV and I ordered one. I was going to replace myself one weekend when I also was going to change the oil (I like to do things myself).
I notice there were to many panels to remove (including the steel plate underneath the plastic covers) so I gave up. I need to make an appointment with those guys from NJ who provide the CDV.
Can't wait to get it done.
By the way can you share your experience with getting it removed by the shop and your take on how the clutch perfomed after.
I notice there were to many panels to remove (including the steel plate underneath the plastic covers) so I gave up. I need to make an appointment with those guys from NJ who provide the CDV.
Can't wait to get it done.
By the way can you share your experience with getting it removed by the shop and your take on how the clutch perfomed after.
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I do a lot of my own stuff also, but I was unsure of this task and bleeding the clutch, so I took it to a independent BMW mechanic. It was a fairly easy job. The hardest part was getting access to the brake/clutch fluid, which we did not need to do (only if you get air in the system and need to bleed it).
You need to remove the chassis cover which has about 15 screws. It was easy on a lift but would be difficult otherwise. We clamped the clutch hose so as not to leak/lose fluid. Then it is just a matter of replacing the valve.
My guy did not lose any fluid so we did not need to bleed the system. The whole job takes less than an hour as long as you don't have to bleed the system.
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Yes, I guess the CDV could be the important unknown. I have no idea if my car has one, whether or not an unmodified 545i with one would behave similarly or not, and the modified CDV 545i cars throw yet another wrinkle in...
I can say with certainty however after numerous "tests" that during normal leisurely driving either the throttle or the clutch is somehow easier to operate on my car. It's as if when DSC/DTC are enabled, the computer is retarding the throttle application or softening it, which might be a self-preservation measure for general longevity.
I notice it most during leisurely standing starts and 1st to 2nd shifts.
You can checkout / contact in order to find out if your car has the CDV:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm
I can say with certainty however after numerous "tests" that during normal leisurely driving either the throttle or the clutch is somehow easier to operate on my car. It's as if when DSC/DTC are enabled, the computer is retarding the throttle application or softening it, which might be a self-preservation measure for general longevity.
I notice it most during leisurely standing starts and 1st to 2nd shifts.
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[/quote]You can checkout / contact in order to find out if your car has the CDV:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm
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UUronL i know exactly what you mean. i too found the car to be more 'juicy' when DSC is off.
seems like the power transfer is m ore instantaneous and torque increased.
i had DSC switch off since day 1 after i noticed the effect, and have forgotten this factor. thanks for bringing it up again.
seems like the power transfer is m ore instantaneous and torque increased.
i had DSC switch off since day 1 after i noticed the effect, and have forgotten this factor. thanks for bringing it up again.
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Those of you who say you're turning DTC off. When you press the DSC button once (on my car at least) you ENABLE dynamic traction control (dynamic being the important word here - you're enabling the "dynamic" bit - allowing a little slip, rasther than the standard mode of trying to eliminate slip) and RESTRICT DSC. I find this a great mode for pushing on, without losing the safety net altogether. Are you guys saying you're holding the buttong down to turn it all off completely? If so, have you even tried the "middle" mode?
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