Directional Indicator design flaw
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Guys, this thread is not about triple signal activation. Read the manual and you will learn that although a little different the indicator stalk is actually quite well designed.
The thread starter is saying that he cannot see the green flasher on the dashboard.
The thread starter is saying that he cannot see the green flasher on the dashboard.
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Yet another HUD display item that would be helpful. I too cannot see or hear the indicators and have to bob & weave to check them. I think Chrysler has a feature where a chime rings if the indicator is on too long. That also would seem like a relaively easy feature for BMW to add to iDrive.
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I have no problems with either visibility or the use of the stalk - it takes some getting used to but once you have it then its quite a slick system.
Also at first I could not see the indicator lights but raising the wheel just a little bit higher made all the difference. This position suits me although I sould imagine it causing problems for others.
I do agree though - the position of the lights should be in the middle.
Also at first I could not see the indicator lights but raising the wheel just a little bit higher made all the difference. This position suits me although I sould imagine it causing problems for others.
I do agree though - the position of the lights should be in the middle.
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Yep - there's a little triangular space on either side of the time/temp display next to the bottom of the tach and speedo that would be perfect for the indicators - and I dont' see anything else using that location.
This really bugs me - to add to it, my right turn flasher sticks sometimes on the 3 click activation, so I have to lean over and look every time I use it, until I go get it fixed.
And, forget about being able to see the top of the tach and speedo unless the wheel is all the way up.
This really bugs me - to add to it, my right turn flasher sticks sometimes on the 3 click activation, so I have to lean over and look every time I use it, until I go get it fixed.
And, forget about being able to see the top of the tach and speedo unless the wheel is all the way up.
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Originally Posted by John W' date='Apr 5 2005, 04:20 PM
And, forget about being able to see the top of the tach and speedo unless the wheel is all the way up.
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It looks like the problem is combination of seat position and turn signal position.
I can not put my seat in the position I want which is as far back and as high up as possible but I can only do one or the other without tilting the seat, so I have to compromize between the two and then as a result you loose turn signal view.
It works pretty good if seat is moved all of the way down, hey at that position your tilting rearview mirror probably becomes usable if you can still see the windshield
I can not put my seat in the position I want which is as far back and as high up as possible but I can only do one or the other without tilting the seat, so I have to compromize between the two and then as a result you loose turn signal view.
It works pretty good if seat is moved all of the way down, hey at that position your tilting rearview mirror probably becomes usable if you can still see the windshield
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I am 5'10" and I have not had any problems. Most cars are designed today with the hands at the 3 annd 9 position on the steering wheel, with the thumbs hooked in the spokes. I didn't change my postion to this until I took BMW driver's training. It may be your hands are blocking out the signals at the 4 and 10 position.
On the other hand, the car should be designed to accomadate all positions.
On the other hand, the car should be designed to accomadate all positions.
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I have no problem with the indicators, i do have a point on the indicator switch being too high.
I am used to it now, but in the first few weeks of ownership I constantly deactivated cruise control instead of using the indicator.
I am used to it now, but in the first few weeks of ownership I constantly deactivated cruise control instead of using the indicator.
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forgot to mention that my former mercs (clk and E) had the same feature (tip and triple-blink)
So it's not only GM that used this system.
So it's not only GM that used this system.
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Agree - indicator lights could be in better location. Having said that, their placement doesn't bother me. I use my indicators 100% of the time for lane changes, turning etc. and I have become very good at using the stock the way it is designed and I know when they are on and in what position. In my opinion the indicator system is fantastic and an elegant design solution.