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10-19-2006, 05:42 PM
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I have been wondering why the manuals and SMGs have a lower final drive ratio (2.91) than a Step (3.46)? Znod and grogan545 both agree that the final drive ratio of the Step is a contributor for their excellent timed runs. Why can't BMW just outfit the manuals and SMG with the same 3.46 as the Step?
10-19-2006, 06:18 PM
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Ya it has to be the first and second gear ratio + rear differential which gives the Step the edge on acceleration.
Well with a higher final drive ratio you get less top end speed... maybe thats why BMW chose to give the manuals a higher final drive ratio... so they can drive faster on the autobahn...
Thats prob not the only reason... but a combination... RPM when crusing in 6th along with the avilability of a manual gear box that has the same gear ratios as a auto tranny so they changed the final gear ratio to make the crusing rpms similiar?
Fuel Economy... we dont care but BMW does.. and needs to make them similiar also...
I dunno. just my guesses... thats all i can guess for now. brain is stuck and fried.
Well with a higher final drive ratio you get less top end speed... maybe thats why BMW chose to give the manuals a higher final drive ratio... so they can drive faster on the autobahn...
Thats prob not the only reason... but a combination... RPM when crusing in 6th along with the avilability of a manual gear box that has the same gear ratios as a auto tranny so they changed the final gear ratio to make the crusing rpms similiar?
Fuel Economy... we dont care but BMW does.. and needs to make them similiar also...
I dunno. just my guesses... thats all i can guess for now. brain is stuck and fried.
10-19-2006, 06:33 PM
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Even more confused as ever... 
EDIT: In response to EBMCS03's reply.
EDIT: In response to EBMCS03's reply.
10-20-2006, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ImolaRedM' post='346877' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:33 PM
That's a good question. It would be nice if at least BMW offered more agressive gearing on the sport package as they did with the E39.
Well, luckily for the 530i owners here... the diff is a lot better than what our V8 manual brethren get...
10-20-2006, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='347017' date='Oct 20 2006, 07:19 AM
Well, luckily for the 530i owners here... the diff is a lot better than what our V8 manual brethren get...
I was hoping that you would answer the question... You and Znod had answered regarding diffs awhile back ago explaining the ratios but why did BMW stick the manuals and SMG with crappy ones?
10-20-2006, 10:31 AM
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645ci (3.23) : 5.6s
545i (2.93) : 5.8s
Technicians @my dealer are searching infos from germany for change the differential ...
545i (2.93) : 5.8s
Technicians @my dealer are searching infos from germany for change the differential ...
10-20-2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='347112' date='Oct 20 2006, 11:31 AM
645ci (3.23) : 5.6s
545i (2.93) : 5.8s
Technicians @my dealer are searching infos from germany for change the differential ...
545i (2.93) : 5.8s
Technicians @my dealer are searching infos from germany for change the differential ...
10-20-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='347142' date='Oct 20 2006, 10:22 PM
Are you quoting the reported 0 - 60 times?
No, 0-100 kmh, obviously
.Anyway ... 545i and 645ci have the same weight but with different differential there is a difference of 0.2s .
