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Originally Posted by browellm' date='Oct 31 2005, 10:58 AM
No, it isn't.
Forget about NTP updates, they're irrelevant to the DST offset discussion (if not the accurate clock discussion).
DST changes work perfectly well offline (as I mentioned in a previous post).
Any Windows devce will update DST (assuming you have the check box ticked), without being connected to a network.
At the risk of repeating myself, the functionality is embedded.
Forget about NTP updates, they're irrelevant to the DST offset discussion (if not the accurate clock discussion).
DST changes work perfectly well offline (as I mentioned in a previous post).
Any Windows devce will update DST (assuming you have the check box ticked), without being connected to a network.
At the risk of repeating myself, the functionality is embedded.
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Further, there would need to be region specific coding for DST, because not all regions use hour offsets; some use 30 minutes. All of this certainly can be maintained offline, and updated as necessarily with software updates. However, a PC or a PDA is much more likely to receive a software update in its lifetime than a vehicle.
As I hinted at before, perhaps a better discussion is not whether this is "possible", but how many other vehicles update their clocks for DST, and via what exact mechanism they accomplish it.
The NTP discussion is quite relevant since people were saying "my computer does it"; well, since it's getting the information from a central system via an always-on connection to a network, that's not too surprising to me.
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Originally Posted by browellm' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:58 AM
No, it isn't.
Forget about NTP updates, they're irrelevant to the DST offset discussion (if not the accurate clock discussion).
DST changes work perfectly well offline (as I mentioned in a previous post).
Any Windows devce will update DST (assuming you have the check box ticked), without being connected to a network.
At the risk of repeating myself, the functionality is embedded.
Forget about NTP updates, they're irrelevant to the DST offset discussion (if not the accurate clock discussion).
DST changes work perfectly well offline (as I mentioned in a previous post).
Any Windows devce will update DST (assuming you have the check box ticked), without being connected to a network.
At the risk of repeating myself, the functionality is embedded.
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Originally Posted by Bimmer32' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:08 AM
Why do we even have DST in the first place? Was it because Fall as short days and spring has longer day? Who cares we have electricity now.
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Originally Posted by nicke60gre' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:18 AM
Agree, i have never connect my laptop on any network, but the clock change the time automatically according to the daylight savings.
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And it's a lot more of a possibility that you'll get a software update between now and then on a computer than you would on a vehicle.
The point is that if anything about DST changes in any region, the embedded functionality, which depends on being correct to work, is broken.
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But as DST can be switched off and on at the touch of a button, and the rest of the world are not changing things in 2007, most of your points are moot!
The functionality will not be "broken", just not applicable to your neck of the woods
The functionality will not be "broken", just not applicable to your neck of the woods
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Originally Posted by browellm' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:32 AM
But as DST can be switched off and on at the touch of a button, and the rest of the world are not changing things in 2007, most of you points are moot!
The functionality will not be "broken", just not applicable to your neck of the woods
The functionality will not be "broken", just not applicable to your neck of the woods
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Not to mention that the state of DST vs Standard Time would also be broken for about a month out of the year...
DST isn't carved in stone: even though it's been static for a while, it can change. And as other nations feel the squeeze of energy prices, they might not be so magnanimous in their view of the US decision to change DST.
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Originally Posted by das' date='Oct 31 2005, 12:28 PM
[quote name='nicke60gre' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:18 AM']Agree, i have never connect my laptop on any network, but the clock change the time automatically according to the daylight savings.
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[/quote]Ok. In this case i will untick the daylight savings checkbox.
This checkbox i want to have in I-drive menu.
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Originally Posted by nicke60gre' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:42 AM
Ok. In this case i will untick the daylight savings checkbox.
This checkbox i want to have in I-drive menu.
This checkbox i want to have in I-drive menu.
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Originally Posted by das' date='Oct 31 2005, 12:44 PM
[quote name='nicke60gre' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:42 AM']Ok. In this case i will untick the daylight savings checkbox.
This checkbox i want to have in I-drive menu.
This checkbox i want to have in I-drive menu.
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[/quote]In my expensive, beautiful, piece of art, wonder of technology, car
I just want the ability to do it.
PS. I've never been out of my country.
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Originally Posted by nicke60gre' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:56 AM
In my expensive, beautiful, piece of art, wonder of technology, car
I just want the ability to do it.
PS. I've never been out of my country.
Yet.
I just want the ability to do it.
PS. I've never been out of my country.
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I'm still interested in hearing if any other vehicles automatically update for DST, and how the accomplish it - and if it will break in March 2007 unless the car gets a software update before then.