E60 Discussion Anything and everything to do with the E60 5 Series. All are welcome!

Clutch life on E60 V8 (545/550)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-02-2009, 06:18 AM
  #1  
hmc
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
hmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My Ride: 2007 BMW 550i Sport Pkg, 6MT
Thumbs up

I am curious about clutch life on 545/550 cars due to high torque, as well as CDV effect on clutch life. I do understand driving style plays a big role in clutch life. These are my questions:

Did you modify/delete CDV (clutch delay valve)?
Did you ever replace clutch/flywheel/both?
- If yes, at what mileage? Did you drive aggressively?
- If not, how many miles you have now?
Old 09-02-2009, 06:23 AM
  #2  
Senior Members
 
tiangco.a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary ab
Posts: 545
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hmc' post='995879' date='Sep 2 2009, 08:18 AM
I am curious about clutch life on 545/550 cars due to high torque, as well as CDV effect on clutch life. I do understand driving style plays a big role in clutch life. These are my questions:

Did you modify/delete CDV (clutch delay valve)?
Did you ever replace clutch/flywheel/both?
- If yes, at what mileage? Did you drive aggressively?
- If not, how many miles you have now?
Replaced my clutch and flywheel at 96000kms. I was not aggressive, and i knew how to drive standard. I bought my car preowned so im thinking that the previous owner had effed it up, and it just took some time to really wear.
The flywheel was burnt and could have been machined, but i just replaced it.
I did the CDV delete, it supposed to save your clutch a little more.
Old 09-02-2009, 06:49 AM
  #3  
Senior Members
 
jm545i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I'm at 43k miles on the original clutch.

I did the CDV delete a few thousand miles after I bought the car (did it at about 32k). There is a great deal of slippage with it installed, I would take it out (or replace with a unit that has the restrictor valve innards removed) the next time you swap the brake fluid.

I drive aggressively but don't abuse the clutch (or slip it more than I have to), and double-clutch/rev-match on upshifts and downshifts (to the best of my ability anyway). So far no problems.
Old 09-02-2009, 10:33 PM
  #4  
Members
 
thedreamshop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Irvine CA
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 2004 545i titanium grey 6 speed manual with light grey interior. Nav, L7, cold weather, sport, sat. Modifications: suede headliner, pianno black interior trim, Ipod dock, Mtech front bumper, Angel Eyes, and flat black kidney grills.
Default

I bought my 04 545i CPO with 21K miles. I have always felt the clutch was abused by the previous owner. It likes to judder and slip n stick sometimes. I installed the modified CDV, It did not improve. I have been double clutch down shifting only, no double clutch up-shifts.
Old 09-02-2009, 11:05 PM
  #5  
Banned
 
John@Motorcepts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 7,983
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My Ride: A Car
Default

who was the special guy who helps people take out their CDV? I forgot where I found the post. I wanna take mind out...if I have one that's the case.
Old 09-03-2009, 09:29 AM
  #6  
Members
 
krusir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 2009 535xi, short shifter, no CDV
Default

+1. I did exact the same thing in my previous 2002 540i. Took CDV out around 2K miles.... My original clutch still in good shape at 167K miles when I sold the car. In my first 2K drive, the CDV just help to kill clutch, at 1st, 2nd gear, 9 out of 10 times is not smooth at all. Life get back to perfect after "NO CDV". And my clutch life (167K miles) proof it.

I current have 2009 535xi. I also removed CDV at first week of ownership. Car is at 12K miles.

Originally Posted by jm545i' post='995919' date='Sep 2 2009, 07:49 AM
I'm at 43k miles on the original clutch.

I did the CDV delete a few thousand miles after I bought the car (did it at about 32k). There is a great deal of slippage with it installed, I would take it out (or replace with a unit that has the restrictor valve innards removed) the next time you swap the brake fluid.

I drive aggressively but don't abuse the clutch (or slip it more than I have to), and double-clutch/rev-match on upshifts and downshifts (to the best of my ability anyway). So far no problems.
Old 09-03-2009, 12:48 PM
  #7  
Members
 
thedreamshop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Irvine CA
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 2004 545i titanium grey 6 speed manual with light grey interior. Nav, L7, cold weather, sport, sat. Modifications: suede headliner, pianno black interior trim, Ipod dock, Mtech front bumper, Angel Eyes, and flat black kidney grills.
Default

Originally Posted by krusir' post='997148' date='Sep 3 2009, 10:29 AM
+1. I did exact the same thing in my previous 2002 540i. Took CDV out around 2K miles.... My original clutch still in good shape at 167K miles when I sold the car. In my first 2K drive, the CDV just help to kill clutch, at 1st, 2nd gear, 9 out of 10 times is not smooth at all. Life get back to perfect after "NO CDV". And my clutch life (167K miles) proof it.

I current have 2009 535xi. I also removed CDV at first week of ownership. Car is at 12K miles.
On your E60 did you fully remove the CDV or did you install one without the restrictor plate inside? Like the one Zeckenhousing racing sells with the guts out. I feel that if I took it out completely it would be better but I think you would need a pipe bender since the tube is spiraled and fixed, right? If you can fully remove it how did you do it?
Old 09-03-2009, 01:03 PM
  #8  
Senior Members
 
jm545i's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by thedreamshop' post='997366' date='Sep 3 2009, 04:48 PM
On your E60 did you fully remove the CDV or did you install one without the restrictor plate inside? Like the one Zeckenhousing racing sells with the guts out. I feel that if I took it out completely it would be better but I think you would need a pipe bender since the tube is spiraled and fixed, right? If you can fully remove it how did you do it?
You didn't ask me, but I'll answer - I think better better to replace with a Zeckhausen-like unit for exactly that reason. Also it gives the look of stock when you take it in for service.
Old 09-03-2009, 01:10 PM
  #9  
hmc
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
hmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carlsbad, California
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My Ride: 2007 BMW 550i Sport Pkg, 6MT
Default

Back to my original questions, please.

Please tell me your current mileage, original clutch or not and when replaced if replaced.
Old 09-03-2009, 02:01 PM
  #10  
Senior Members
 
SilberGrauE60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Colorado USA
Posts: 518
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 2004 545i, 6-speed Manual, Silver Grey Metallic, Grey Dakota Leather, Cold Weather Pkg, Premium Sound Pkg, Sport Pkg, Lumbar Support
Default

Currently 37,000 miles on original clutch and CDV valve intact.


Quick Reply: Clutch life on E60 V8 (545/550)



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:15 AM.