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Old 06-08-2006, 05:20 PM
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There was a good article is Car and Driver this month about how many rear end crashes the red light cameras cause.

http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/11185/...c-scameras.html
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Originally Posted by Member545' post='294819' date='Jun 9 2006, 03:20 AM
There was a good article is Car and Driver this month about how many rear end crashes the red light cameras cause.

http://www.caranddriver.com/columns/11185/...c-scameras.html
do not wanna be an a$$ mate but my 0.02s are not caused by cams but driver who CANNOT keep the following distance
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='294908' date='Jun 9 2006, 01:28 PM
do not wanna be an a$$ mate but my 0.02s are not caused by cams but driver who CANNOT keep the following distance
I agree, there's tons of red light camera here in HK but I don't see much rear end crashing cause by red light camera. People are just driving too fast and following too close.
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Here in Finland there is a very clear distinction between less than 20 km/h and more than 20 km/h excess speed. If it is below 20 you get a fixed fine of 100? (USD 125). If it is more than 20 they calculate it based on your last year's taxable income. All police patrol cars have online access to the taxation records, so they can calculate it on the spot.

Last year I was doing 62 km/h at 40 km/h limit zone and got fined 900 euros (USD 1100).
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Originally Posted by calzona' post='294052' date='Jun 7 2006, 05:26 PM
BTW, there are speed camera's in Phoenix, AZ on the 101 Loop. They'll give you a ticket for 10 mph over the limit which is 65 mph. :thumbsdown: I've got a photo license plate cover on my plate so at the angle of camera the letters and numbers are completely reflected out. Check out this website Anti-photo license plate covers Only works on US plates and motorcycles and yes it is illegal but just a fix-it ticket. I've had cops right behind and they don't do a thing.
You can get similar anti-photo plates in Uk, but a policeman friend said that they will make an extra effort to
track you down & give maximum penalty, eg.. no leniency for being just over the limit !
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='294908' date='Jun 9 2006, 01:28 AM
do not wanna be an a$$ mate but my 0.02s are not caused by cams but driver who CANNOT keep the following distance
The studies were done comparing before and after installation of the cameras. We don't have many of them here, and when they install them people stand on the brakes when the light turns yellow.
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='294658' date='Jun 9 2006, 12:05 AM
Just across the Baltic - I got filmed from behind by an unmarked Mondeo V6 on probably the only decent motorway that we have here at a max speed of 196 km/h :'( . Limit is 130 km/h. They asked if I want to see the film which I politely declined. After a long discussion, since I wasn't driving in an unsafe manner I managed to get off only 25 Euro lighter .

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We have those camera in the traffic lights for years. N.Y.
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Originally Posted by amigo525' post='294994' date='Jun 9 2006, 01:14 PM
We have those camera in the traffic lights for years. N.Y.
same here and never get a ticket
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Originally Posted by Member545' post='294984' date='Jun 9 2006, 12:51 PM
The studies were done comparing before and after installation of the cameras. We don't have many of them here, and when they install them people stand on the brakes when the light turns yellow.
I totally understand you and can imagine, I onyl refered to "todays behavior of drivers" pushing all, I started to use sometimes PDC to see if a smart *** came to close, once my rear was changed, yes but I do not mind for ///M




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