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Old 05-11-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GQuK545i' post='875314' date='May 11 2009, 05:04 PM
Back to the topic. I have ran my modded 545i on the track plenty of times.

And have taken a stock e46 M3, It all comes down to the launch and as long as the tires grip on the track.

You have a good chance of winning. I have beaten every V6 that has come my way.

V8 Kills every time with good launch of course. O yea and the driver makes a difference too of course

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i might be willing to say my 535 will give your 545 a run for its money. are you including I6s with two turbos attached to it?
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='875343' date='May 11 2009, 04:38 PM
i might be willing to say my 535 will give your 545 a run for its money. are you including I6s with two turbos attached to it?

I did say V6 but not including the turbo. but still 535i you can try it's worth the effort.
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Originally Posted by GQuK545i' post='875364' date='May 11 2009, 05:57 PM
I did say V6 but not including the turbo. but still 535i you can try it's worth the effort.
if i lose, i will take the 10 minutes to snap in a JB3, then you will need to come back with an M5
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='875343' date='May 11 2009, 03:38 PM
i might be willing to say my 535 will give your 545 a run for its money. are you including I6s with two turbos attached to it?
Correct me if I am wrong

Modded 535i > Modded 545i > Stock 545i > Stock 535i

yeah N54 engines are highly tunable.
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Originally Posted by miguex' post='875381' date='May 11 2009, 06:21 PM
Correct me if I am wrong

Modded 535i > Modded 545i > Stock 545i > Stock 535i

yeah N54 engines are highly tunable.
That's right, those twin turbos have a lot of potential!
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Originally Posted by miguex' post='875381' date='May 11 2009, 06:21 PM
Correct me if I am wrong

Modded 535i > Modded 545i > Stock 545i > Stock 535i

yeah N54 engines are highly tunable.
I dont know. I pose the new question, 535i stock vs 545 stock??? does anyone know the numbers?
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Yeah hard to know...... No youtube videos about 545i vs e46 M3 either vs 535i..... Anyone should race and post videos.
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2008 535

0 - 30 (sec): 1.9
0 - 45 (sec): 3.7
0 - 60 (sec): 5.5
0 - 75 (sec): 8.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.0 @ 100.4
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 113
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
Slalom (mph): 65.3
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.89
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent


cant find the specs on the 545. reputible spece, not "i brought my car to the track and..." from some other forum
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E60 535

0 - 30 (sec): 1.9
0 - 45 (sec): 3.7
0 - 60 (sec): 5.5
0 - 75 (sec): 8.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.0 @ 100.4
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 113
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
Slalom (mph): 65.3
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.89
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent


E46 M3

0 - 30 (sec): 1.9
0 - 45 (sec): 3.3
0 - 60 (sec): 5.0
0 - 75 (sec): 7.3
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.5@105.2
30 - 0 (ft): 28
60 - 0 (ft): 112
Braking Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
Slalom (mph): 66.6
Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 36.1
Handling Rating (Excellent, Good, Average, Poor or Very Poor): Excellent
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='874398' date='May 10 2009, 03:15 PM
there is a big difference between a LIMITED SLIP rear and a POSI rear (or POSI-TRACTION for you non car people) and a LOCKED rear.

you have LSD (Limited Slip) it will not affect your car in corners negatively. a posi rear would negatively affect aggressive cornering, a locked rear is horrible in corners and should only be used on drag cars.

in the car world, traction goes like this from least traction to most:

"Dead Rear" (no affect on cornering)
"Limited Slip Rear" (no affect on cornering)
"Posi Rear" (some affect on cornering)
"Locked Rear" (not really for a car that turns at all)

I have driven cars with each type of rear. I spent thousands of dollars on the rear setup in my mustang and researched it extensively. We can talk about Posi units, axles, the differences between 29 splines, 31 splines, etc. we can talk about gear ratios, their affect on acceleration/top speed, the effects of different gear ratios on naturally asperated/forced induction vehicles, difference the type of traction has in relation to drivetrain, etc. i can argue with you all until i am blue in the face, but someone here will refute what i am saying (swajames )


that is all for now. hope i have helped.
You sure did explain thoroughly with one exception.
I specifically mentioned LSD which I believe abbreviation for LIMITED slip differential.
Just like you said, LSD will not affect the cornering abilities just like I said first time.
And M3 is equipped with LSD.

My point was that OP kept asking if he can overhual the lsd and my simple answer was
he will likely be running an m3 on a roll so lsd won't give any advantages.


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