The BMW Attitude
05-15-2006, 10:04 PM
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My Ride: In a place where the Mercedes density is the highest in the world (no. of MB per square kilometer) I choose a Bimmer, why? because of one thing "The Ultimate Driving Experience"
My Ride:
523i Steptronic, Silver Grey Exterior, Black Interior with Black Dakota Leather and Maple Wood Trim. Chrome Grill, Style 123 rim, Airbags everywhere, PDC, Rain sensor, Auto lights, Moveable front armrest, Advance Climate Control, Glass Sunroof, Auto dimming interior and exterior mirror with foldable functions, Extended Lights package, 6 CD changer in glove box, Power seats with memory, Power adjustable steering wheel, Power rear sunblinds.
Add ons: 123 wheels, chrome grill, K&N Hi flow filter, Eibach Pro Kit, e60.net decal and 24,000km
Past rides:
2001 Nissan Xterra SE
1999 E39 523i
1999 E46 323i
1996 Acura Integra LS
Originally Posted by rollee' post='282999' date='May 16 2006, 02:01 PM
AH me2!!
I do that all the time plus many more others.
i can wash my car at 3am even after a long day's work, or clean my wheels anytime of the day.
i cannot sleep if i know my car sleeping in my garage does not have a full tank (sleeping hungry-poor baby).
some of my buddies and neighbour:
detailing their BMW takes no less than 3 full days. never has the car not been hand washed plus another 3 layers of caruba.
can wake up in the middle of the night to check tire pressure.
will change wheels themselves nightly according to next day's weather report.
the single bmw takes up both spaces in the garage (parked in the middle) to make room for 2 red carpets on each side of car. entire garage lit with daylight balance HMI lighting.
no limits in spending for car care acessories, that including $250+ on a can of wax.
has a surround sound home theatre and plasma screen installed in garage with computer controlled temperature plus insulation, to enable more times spent with his car indoors.
new project of a friend:
to dig out a part of his garage to ease hand washing the car indoors. water goes through the mesh floor.
call that crazy? NEVER. its passion.
I do that all the time plus many more others.
i can wash my car at 3am even after a long day's work, or clean my wheels anytime of the day.
i cannot sleep if i know my car sleeping in my garage does not have a full tank (sleeping hungry-poor baby).
some of my buddies and neighbour:
detailing their BMW takes no less than 3 full days. never has the car not been hand washed plus another 3 layers of caruba.
can wake up in the middle of the night to check tire pressure.
will change wheels themselves nightly according to next day's weather report.
the single bmw takes up both spaces in the garage (parked in the middle) to make room for 2 red carpets on each side of car. entire garage lit with daylight balance HMI lighting.
no limits in spending for car care acessories, that including $250+ on a can of wax.
has a surround sound home theatre and plasma screen installed in garage with computer controlled temperature plus insulation, to enable more times spent with his car indoors.
new project of a friend:
to dig out a part of his garage to ease hand washing the car indoors. water goes through the mesh floor.
call that crazy? NEVER. its passion.
new ideas for my coming renovation 
05-16-2006, 02:18 AM
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by markt540i' post='248229' date='Mar 2 2006, 04:54 AM
Znod, I don't either. He must have changed it.
I do not care what people think, then do not wear a nice watch, suits etc
BS sorry.It is true that we have the so called "BMW driver attitude" but it is not the fault of the brand, we buy it as it it is a fast car and nice
most of the people are just jellous they cannot afford it, or cud but did not buy it, their fault.I am sometimes in a hurry and have to push a bit, so I see they say look the guy with the big balck BMW, yeah sometimes would need a panzer here
05-16-2006, 02:46 AM
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My Ride: 2010 523i. Alpine white, dakota leather, 8 speed auto, VDC, bluetooth, HID lights, parking sensors, sport seats, black window trim, tinted rear windows
1988 Ferrari 328 GTS, nero on rosso corsa.
1992 Mazda MX-5 / Miata
2009 Ford S-Max 2.5T
In Poland BMW had a huge image problem as it was perceived as a mafia car and as a prime target for car thieves. 5 years ago neither myself nor any of my friends would be seen dead in a beemer (or Merc come to that, Audi was borderline) even though the dynamic qualities of the cars were uncontestable.
This has now changed insofar that the new BMW's are perceived as OK and in a group of say 20 close friends there are 3 E60's and a 7 Series. However once these cars age beyond about 8 years they slip into a grey zone of irregular maintenance, amateur body repairs, crass alloys, cheap fibreglass body adornments and donuts at shopping mall parking lots at 2 a.m.
I'm enjoying my first BMW but have always had more enthusiasm about my Miata. Both of these cars get attention in Poland and while the beemer definitely pisses off a lot of people and you can see they're thinking "rich bastard" when they look at you the Miata generally gets smiles.
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This has now changed insofar that the new BMW's are perceived as OK and in a group of say 20 close friends there are 3 E60's and a 7 Series. However once these cars age beyond about 8 years they slip into a grey zone of irregular maintenance, amateur body repairs, crass alloys, cheap fibreglass body adornments and donuts at shopping mall parking lots at 2 a.m.
I'm enjoying my first BMW but have always had more enthusiasm about my Miata. Both of these cars get attention in Poland and while the beemer definitely pisses off a lot of people and you can see they're thinking "rich bastard" when they look at you the Miata generally gets smiles.
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Przemek
05-16-2006, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PoleApart' post='283073' date='May 16 2006, 11:46 AM
In Poland BMW had a huge image problem as it was perceived as a mafia car and as a prime target for car thieves. 5 years ago neither myself nor any of my friends would be seen dead in a beemer (or Merc come to that, Audi was borderline) even though the dynamic qualities of the cars were uncontestable.
This has now changed insofar that the new BMW's are perceived as OK and in a group of say 20 close friends there are 3 E60's and a 7 Series. However once these cars age beyond about 8 years they slip into a grey zone of irregular maintenance, amateur body repairs, crass alloys, cheap fibreglass body adornments and donuts at shopping mall parking lots at 2 a.m.
I'm enjoying my first BMW but have always had more enthusiasm about my Miata. Both of these cars get attention in Poland and while the beemer definitely pisses off a lot of people and you can see they're thinking "rich bastard" when they look at you the Miata generally gets smiles.
--
Przemek
This has now changed insofar that the new BMW's are perceived as OK and in a group of say 20 close friends there are 3 E60's and a 7 Series. However once these cars age beyond about 8 years they slip into a grey zone of irregular maintenance, amateur body repairs, crass alloys, cheap fibreglass body adornments and donuts at shopping mall parking lots at 2 a.m.
I'm enjoying my first BMW but have always had more enthusiasm about my Miata. Both of these cars get attention in Poland and while the beemer definitely pisses off a lot of people and you can see they're thinking "rich bastard" when they look at you the Miata generally gets smiles.
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Przemek
05-16-2006, 05:37 AM
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My Ride: E60 Limo with M-Sport package(m5 mirrors,m5 trunk finisher,m172 summer wheels,blk front grills,m5 paddle shift kit(my530i),m pedal covers,m floor mats,
E87 2005 The Misses car
E39 2002 Touring with M-Sport package/family wagon(gone but not forgotten)
Originally Posted by brommy' post='283089' date='May 16 2006, 02:00 PM
Out of curiosity and ignorance - what is a Miata?
05-16-2006, 05:40 AM
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E87 2005 The Misses car
E39 2002 Touring with M-Sport package/family wagon(gone but not forgotten)
Originally Posted by jet190rs' post='248115' date='Mar 2 2006, 01:24 AM
This is an over-simplification so I hope no one takes this personally, but BMWs are like Rolexes.
They're expensive enough to have snob appeal. But they're cheap enough to be attainable for most ppl.
On one side, you have enthusiasts who are really into its history, engineering, etc.
(They swear by their E30 M3s, 2002s, James Bond No Date Submariners, COMEX SeaDwellers, or at least recognize why these models are important)
On the other hand, you have yuppies who are into these brands only because they think its "nice". They buy these things just cause they see their friends with one, want to show off, think they're supposed to get one because of the money they make and to keep up with the Jones'.
(They swear by the newest and shiniest models only, think old models are junk)
Group #1 has all the passion, but are the minority these days.
Group #2 is superficial, but are the majority these days.
What you're describing is how the general public only knows of group #2. They don't recognize that there's actually passionate enthusiasts out there who aren't snobs and who don't buy these models just cause they're "nice".
They're expensive enough to have snob appeal. But they're cheap enough to be attainable for most ppl.
On one side, you have enthusiasts who are really into its history, engineering, etc.
(They swear by their E30 M3s, 2002s, James Bond No Date Submariners, COMEX SeaDwellers, or at least recognize why these models are important)
On the other hand, you have yuppies who are into these brands only because they think its "nice". They buy these things just cause they see their friends with one, want to show off, think they're supposed to get one because of the money they make and to keep up with the Jones'.
(They swear by the newest and shiniest models only, think old models are junk)
Group #1 has all the passion, but are the minority these days.
Group #2 is superficial, but are the majority these days.
What you're describing is how the general public only knows of group #2. They don't recognize that there's actually passionate enthusiasts out there who aren't snobs and who don't buy these models just cause they're "nice".
and I don't care what others think 
it's my life and my money 
05-16-2006, 05:41 AM
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My Ride: MY RIDE is DA real .-) HAMANN 5 aka BLACK MAMBA born on 16/06/2005/delivered on 05/08/2005 as following:
530dA (steptronic), Black II (JET), leather Dakota auburn black, mapple trim, head-up display, dynamic drive, active steering, adaptive xenon headlights (auto levelling) with headlight washers, alarm, comfort seats with massage function, advanced A/C, big compartment armrest, aux-in, MP3, Logic 7, Radio PRO, CD in-dash+cd changer, power rear sunshades, rear airbags, park distance control, auto dimming folding mirrors, smoking package, shiny shadow line (individual), fold down rear seats, ski bag, sport suspension, run flats on �116-style� rims (Good Year NCT5+), cup holders, debadged, fire extinguishers, additional permanent power outlet, BMW coat hanger, trunk release button (installed by Hobi), GPS tracking device and a big thx 2 Iceman.
Mods done:
� Authentic HAMANN FRONT APRON Including ellipsoid fog lights Item-No.: 10 060 110
� Authentic HAMANN REAR SPOILER Item-No.: 10 060 130,
� Authentic HAMANN HAMANN ALUMINIUM PEDALS For cars with manual gearbox Item-No.: 80 099 100 81,00 For cars with automatic transmission Item-No.: 80 099 120
� Authentic HAMANN FOOT REST In aluminium For left-hand drive vehicles Item No. : 80 099 122
� Authentic HAMANN HAND-BRAKE LEVER In aluminium For left- and right-hand drive cars Item No. : 80 099 216
� Authentic HAMANN Idrive of alu (sorry this is the only one in the World) but you can have it in carbon fiber ,
� Authentic HAMANN EXCLUSIVE FLOORMAT SET In black with HAMANN logo in silver For left-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060 120 For right-hand drive cars Item-No. : 80 060
� Authentic HAMANN COVER FOR OIL FILLER CAP In aluminium Item-No.: 80 099 117
� Authentic HAMANN SPORT REAR MUFFLER 4 TAILPIPES Sport rear muffler with four round stainless-steel tailpipes ( � 76mm ) Item-No.: 50 060 111
� Authentic HAMANN new add-on for M pack rear with diffusor for quad pipes -AVAILABLE NOW (http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=ST&f=22&t=30630&st=0#entry332409)
� ///M steering wheel w Pegasus logo (this will be also changed to three spoke sports)
� ///M pack rear
� HAMANN ECU upgrade 265 HP 608 Nm.
most improtant:
�real and working like a charm forumsbuy real LED tails and PIAA 4700k fogs!!! for HAMANN full front apron you need H3
� CustomAngels, Angel Eyes Brighter than stocks 10X, WHITE & (REd for shows).
� Authentic HAMANN LIGHT-ALLOY WHEELS DESIGN EDITION RACE 20"
Ultra-light forged 3-pieced light-alloy wheel, Cross-spoke-design,Spider in black, titanium, screwing,polished flange
DIMENSIONS : 9.0 J x 20 FA Item No.: 91 207 315
10.5 J x 20 only RA Item No.: 91 207 625
Recommended 20" Complete Wheel Set DESIGN EDITION RACE I went with most aggressive Combination A.10 FA 9.0 J x 20 / RA 10.5 J x 20 with tires: FA 245/30 ZR 20 / RA 285/25 ZR 20
� Authentic HAMANN LOWERING KIT 4 progressive sport springs Lowering by approx. 40 mm FA, 20 mm RA Item-No.: 20 060 125
� Authentic HAMANN TIRE - PRESSURE CHECK SENSOR SYSTEM
� Authentic HAMANN SIDE SILLS Item-No.: 10 060 120
� Authentic HAMANN REAL CF ROOF SPOLIER Item-No.: 10 060 235
� Authentic HAMANN AIRBAG SPORT STEERING WHEEL 3-SPOKE Three-spoke design w their SMG paddles (For assembly O.E. airbag in exchange)
� Authentic HAMANN sports mirrors (all functions)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E60.net Clings
Still to do list;-):
� Our Hobi's camera system from : ww.switchchange.com).
� Individual leather interior (auburn+auburn alcantara)... and drive with sheer drivin' pleasure ... until 2009/2010 F10 comes or E60 possibly a 540d V8 diesel early in 2009 badly juiced!
Originally Posted by brommy' post='283089' date='May 16 2006, 02:00 PM
Out of curiosity and ignorance - what is a Miata?
new one:
05-16-2006, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Berlin.BMER' post='283121' date='May 16 2006, 02:37 PM
mazda MX5 2seater convert.
I've certainly heard of a Mazda MX5. Although I've never driven one, every report I've seen or read on them always uses the word 'fun'.
05-16-2006, 09:07 AM
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My Ride: 2010 523i. Alpine white, dakota leather, 8 speed auto, VDC, bluetooth, HID lights, parking sensors, sport seats, black window trim, tinted rear windows
1988 Ferrari 328 GTS, nero on rosso corsa.
1992 Mazda MX-5 / Miata
2009 Ford S-Max 2.5T
Originally Posted by brommy' post='283133' date='May 16 2006, 04:09 PM
Thanks Berlin.BMER and ats77.
I've certainly heard of a Mazda MX5. Although I've never driven one, every report I've seen or read on them always uses the word 'fun'.
I've certainly heard of a Mazda MX5. Although I've never driven one, every report I've seen or read on them always uses the word 'fun'.
I certainly have fun in it:
and in case anyone asks that is NOT a Ferrari badge on the nose...
05-16-2006, 09:25 AM
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My Ride: '04 545iS 6 spd, bought new via eBay, 11/05; Blk/Gry, Cold, L7, PDC, BMW Rear seatcover for pets.
First "Bumwa" was a new 1971 2002. High performance 5s since 1987. Beamer motorcycles too, currently on an 07 BMW K1200 GT; also a Moto Guzzi 1000 SP III.
I've been driving these things since 1971, when people thought BMW stood for British Motor Works, and others asked how to pronounced BMW (Bum-wa?). I have seen the public perception of them change from "sports sedan" to whatever it is now--most dramatically during and following the 80s. That was the time period when money and glamor and "prestige brands/logos" really got drilled into us by the media. It was also about that time that BMW introduced their signature phrase "The Ultimate Driving Machine" which I suspect was not merely coincidental.
It's ironic but I don't ever think, much less worry, about attitude perception, except when confronted by some bully in a (usually jackked-up) pickup truck who intentioinally tries to intimidate me through stupid aggressive driving. I generally ignore them, or simply blow them away if I have the opportunity.
I would say that nowadays, I almost have to educate people about the car's design and benefits, as snob-appeal and pretention have really raised this brand to its current sales heights. I can't fight it, I just try to educate anyone who asks (or makes a stupid comment) and is willing to listen.
I continue to be amazed by the brand slaves who have no idea what it is they are buying. Once during a concert, I handed a pair of Leica mini-binoculars to nearby kid who held them to his eyes, them ripped them away and stared at them in disbelief: "Wow, these really are amazing; so they really are worth the money for that red dot!" Same deal with the roundel.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
It's ironic but I don't ever think, much less worry, about attitude perception, except when confronted by some bully in a (usually jackked-up) pickup truck who intentioinally tries to intimidate me through stupid aggressive driving. I generally ignore them, or simply blow them away if I have the opportunity.
I would say that nowadays, I almost have to educate people about the car's design and benefits, as snob-appeal and pretention have really raised this brand to its current sales heights. I can't fight it, I just try to educate anyone who asks (or makes a stupid comment) and is willing to listen.
I continue to be amazed by the brand slaves who have no idea what it is they are buying. Once during a concert, I handed a pair of Leica mini-binoculars to nearby kid who held them to his eyes, them ripped them away and stared at them in disbelief: "Wow, these really are amazing; so they really are worth the money for that red dot!" Same deal with the roundel.
Cheers,
Ray Hull
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