Automatic "manual" clima (A/C)
03-10-2005, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by berkar' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:39 PM
I write my question about that my car made 2003.october, and I have manual A/C
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
If AUTO doesn't do 'AUTO' then what's the point!
One problem with the AUTO mode is that the fan speed is reduced once the correct temperature is reached. This can cause misting of the windscreen because of the lack of air-flow. Sometimes you have to manually override the system by changing the fan speed...
A quick test to see if the s/w is working properly is to turn AUTO on and turn the temperature setting - AUTO should stay on but the fan speed should varying to meet the demands. Then turn the speed setting, AUTO should turn off. Turn the speed to max and then hit AUTO - the fan should slow right down (assuming actual temperature is close to desired...) Previously, AUTO used to turn off whenever you touched the speed or temperature!
03-10-2005, 05:12 AM
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I agree - the latest SW made the auto mode work for me too.
one thing I have notice which is kinda odd - I notice a "feathering" of the fan speed. It appears to make very rapid adjustments and you can hear the fan speed changing very slightly for no apparent reason. It seems to do this when trying to warm a very cold car.
one thing I have notice which is kinda odd - I notice a "feathering" of the fan speed. It appears to make very rapid adjustments and you can hear the fan speed changing very slightly for no apparent reason. It seems to do this when trying to warm a very cold car.
03-10-2005, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by colejl' date='Mar 10 2005, 03:24 PM
[quote name='berkar' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:39 PM']I write my question about that my car made 2003.october, and I have manual A/C
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
If AUTO doesn't do 'AUTO' then what's the point!
One problem with the AUTO mode is that the fan speed is reduced once the correct temperature is reached. This can cause misting of the windscreen because of the lack of air-flow. Sometimes you have to manually override the system by changing the fan speed...
A quick test to see if the s/w is working properly is to turn AUTO on and turn the temperature setting - AUTO should stay on but the fan speed should varying to meet the demands. Then turn the speed setting, AUTO should turn off. Turn the speed to max and then hit AUTO - the fan should slow right down (assuming actual temperature is close to desired...) Previously, AUTO used to turn off whenever you touched the speed or temperature!
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[/quote]My auto mode definitely does NOT turn off if I adjust the fan speed manually!! It still stays on.
I'm leaving the car tomorrow morning and we'll see if the iDrive upgrade will effect this issue. To convince the service guy that it's possible to have the fan speed thing upgraded seems like a waste off time when BMW HQ says that it's not possible...
03-10-2005, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbo' date='Mar 10 2005, 02:17 PM
[quote name='colejl' date='Mar 10 2005, 03:24 PM'][quote name='berkar' date='Mar 10 2005, 12:39 PM']I write my question about that my car made 2003.october, and I have manual A/C
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
Will sw upgrade to my clima?
If AUTO doesn't do 'AUTO' then what's the point!
One problem with the AUTO mode is that the fan speed is reduced once the correct temperature is reached. This can cause misting of the windscreen because of the lack of air-flow. Sometimes you have to manually override the system by changing the fan speed...
A quick test to see if the s/w is working properly is to turn AUTO on and turn the temperature setting - AUTO should stay on but the fan speed should varying to meet the demands. Then turn the speed setting, AUTO should turn off. Turn the speed to max and then hit AUTO - the fan should slow right down (assuming actual temperature is close to desired...) Previously, AUTO used to turn off whenever you touched the speed or temperature!
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[/quote]My auto mode definitely does NOT turn off if I adjust the fan speed manually!! It still stays on.
I'm leaving the car tomorrow morning and we'll see if the iDrive upgrade will effect this issue. To convince the service guy that it's possible to have the fan speed thing upgraded seems like a waste off time when BMW HQ says that it's not possible...
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[/quote]You car is manuf about the same time as mine ! v15.2 SW fixed this problem - before the upgrade mine behaved like yours.
Good luck!
03-10-2005, 07:32 AM
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Sorry, but again: In this topic we speak about the manual A/C, not the extended
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
03-10-2005, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by berkar' date='Mar 10 2005, 06:32 PM
Sorry, but again: In this topic we speak about the manual A/C, not the extended
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
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Hi Berkar!
Nice to see someone from Hungary! My parents are from there!!
Back to the issue:
There is the (Euro) standard "half manual" A/C / Klima and there is the optional extended A/C / Klima.
My car manual also says that the standard A/C only has the temp and the air flow set automatically compared to the full auto Klima which also controls the fan speed. On newer E60's the standard Klima now also includes the control of fan speed.
So the big question is why the older standard A/C isn't upgradeable!!
A friend of mine who works at a BMW dealer says that on today?s models there is almost no reason at all to pay some 800 Euros for the extended Klima. The main reason for that statement is the now fully automatic Klima. So the only difference (of my knowledge) is the separate left/right tem setting, the "one button activating the front windshield heating" and the back seat temp. adjustment possibility.
I hope I've cleared things out.
03-10-2005, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by berkar' date='Mar 10 2005, 04:32 PM
Sorry, but again: In this topic we speak about the manual A/C, not the extended
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
function A/C?
Because in the book of my car write: the manual clima cant control automatic the
fan speed.
Please write somebody whats the truth!!
Originally Posted by Robbo' date='Mar 10 2005, 02:17 PM
My auto mode definitely does NOT turn off if I adjust the fan speed manually!! It still stays on.
I'm leaving the car tomorrow morning and we'll see if the iDrive upgrade will effect this issue. To convince the service guy that it's possible to have the fan speed thing upgraded seems like a waste off time when BMW HQ says that it's not possible...
I'm leaving the car tomorrow morning and we'll see if the iDrive upgrade will effect this issue. To convince the service guy that it's possible to have the fan speed thing upgraded seems like a waste off time when BMW HQ says that it's not possible...
03-10-2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbo' date='Mar 10 2005, 07:40 PM
So the only difference (of my knowledge) is the separate left/right tem setting, the "one button activating the front windshield heating" and the back seat temp. adjustment possibility.
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03-11-2005, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Mar 10 2005, 11:45 PM
[quote name='Robbo' date='Mar 10 2005, 07:40 PM']So the only difference (of my knowledge) is the separate left/right tem setting, the "one button activating the front windshield heating" and the back seat temp. adjustment possibility.
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[/quote]Indeed... Probably not worth the extra cash as an option - but great if standard fit!
