545i Transmisson/ SLAM
05-25-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by geobmw' date='May 25 2005, 03:38 PM
I do not know is it the same transmission problem or not but it happened twice to me and in exactly same situation. I was making 90 degree left turn to the parking lot which was located on the hill and I slightly pushed the gas pedal,? the car jerked and I've heard a loud slam like I was rear ended.
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
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How do I tell which software version I have?
05-25-2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pitpro' date='May 25 2005, 10:20 PM
[quote name='geobmw' date='May 25 2005, 03:38 PM']I do not know is it the same transmission problem or not but it happened twice to me and in exactly same situation. I was making 90 degree left turn to the parking lot which was located on the hill and I slightly pushed the gas pedal,? the car jerked and I've heard a loud slam like I was rear ended.
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
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How do I tell which software version I have?
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[/quote]Unless the dealership can recreate the problem, they won't do anything. I'm afraid it is going to take legal action to get them to take this seriously. My dealership kept the car for two days trying to get the problem to occur and they couldn't. Then, I got the car back with an invoice basically saying the car worked perfectly and "perhaps the driver is feeling the torque of the very powerful V8".
05-26-2005, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWRaider' date='May 25 2005, 11:24 PM
[quote name='pitpro' date='May 25 2005, 10:20 PM'][quote name='geobmw' date='May 25 2005, 03:38 PM']I do not know is it the same transmission problem or not but it happened twice to me and in exactly same situation. I was making 90 degree left turn to the parking lot which was located on the hill and I slightly pushed the gas pedal,? the car jerked and I've heard a loud slam like I was rear ended.
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
My speed was less than 5 mph and I was driving in D mode. It never happened at any other speed. I have no idea what software version I have, the car was built on 04/05/05, delivered on 05/03/05.
Other then that, the car is absolutely superb .
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How do I tell which software version I have?
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[/quote]Unless the dealership can recreate the problem, they won't do anything. I'm afraid it is going to take legal action to get them to take this seriously. My dealership kept the car for two days trying to get the problem to occur and they couldn't. Then, I got the car back with an invoice basically saying the car worked perfectly and "perhaps the driver is feeling the torque of the very powerful V8".
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[/quote]This is true, we have to find the way to reproduce the problem otherwise it is just a waste of time. I have been making same maneuvers about 30 times since I bought the car and it happened only twice. Could not find the pattern yet.
05-26-2005, 05:48 AM
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I was fortunate enought to make it happen for the shop foreman using this technique (and can reproduce fairly consistently):
Start in 2nd gear withs revs in mid range, down shift to 1st so revs jump toward redline. After 3 -4 second, take your foot off the gas completely so the revs drop quickly. As revs approach 200 or so - slam. May be coincidence, but the slam happens more frequently if I am facing downhill when I do all this.
Start in 2nd gear withs revs in mid range, down shift to 1st so revs jump toward redline. After 3 -4 second, take your foot off the gas completely so the revs drop quickly. As revs approach 200 or so - slam. May be coincidence, but the slam happens more frequently if I am facing downhill when I do all this.
05-26-2005, 08:10 AM
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Car in the shop again, with this slam issue and other stuff. BMW called me for survey I was honest and said service stinks, the dealer took my car in immediatly and loaner car given this morning
I know nothing will get fixed but the more service attempts the more leverage we will have fighting this.
Hey Rob my tranny slams when I leave my home going down the hill
I do notice it only does it when I lightly hit the throttle
Also its not the gearbox we are feeling it is the differential, somehow this is a problem along the driveline sychronization
I know nothing will get fixed but the more service attempts the more leverage we will have fighting this.
Hey Rob my tranny slams when I leave my home going down the hill
I do notice it only does it when I lightly hit the throttle
Also its not the gearbox we are feeling it is the differential, somehow this is a problem along the driveline sychronization
05-26-2005, 08:53 AM
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I learned quite a bit about the lemon law while I had a Mercedes ML320. If you take the car in for the same problem 3 times, and the dealer fails to fix the issue, in California, you qualify for a lemon law return of the car. You have to very careful when you pick up the car that the documentation descibes the problem consistently. Keep your paperwork as well. Car manufacturers definately sit up and take notice when you are in a lemon law situation, and this problem sounds like a good candidate because it is safety related.
05-26-2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Merzbow' date='May 25 2005, 02:40 PM
I fear the only way we're going to get traction on this issue is to find a way to reliably reproduce it. To that end, let's all list what we were doing in the moments before it happened. It has happened to me once so far, pre-16.2. I have the steptronic. I was in DS mode, I think. I was going about 35 on a freeway onramp and had just come out of a curve. I was just stepping on the accelerator intending to speed up when it happened.
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05-26-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziering545I' date='May 16 2005, 08:38 AM
I see many have this issue, would anyone want to get together and then approach BMW NA with this concern?
i think this is a good start the more driver the better and being this is a global forum this will prove to BMW this problem exist throughout production.
I have some ideas, PM or post here on how to proceed
i think this is a good start the more driver the better and being this is a global forum this will prove to BMW this problem exist throughout production.
I have some ideas, PM or post here on how to proceed
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Anyways, count me in on anything that you pursue.
05-26-2005, 11:03 PM
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I wonder if a class-action lawsuit is possible... probably not unless we actually find people who've gotten into accidents because of this issue. And we need to nail down the reproducibility problem.
05-27-2005, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Merzbow' date='May 26 2005, 11:03 PM
I wonder if a class-action lawsuit is possible... probably not unless we actually find people who've gotten into accidents because of this issue. And we need to nail down the reproducibility problem.
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These kinds of suits only benefit lawyers and nothing else... there HAS to be some other way to convince BMW to expidate the "FIX" of this transmission slam.
Lets write a letter " a formal letter " snail mail and e-mail to BMW NA and we'll send it out to them. Someone can type out a templete expressing the problem, the concern, and ask what would be done for us.
And then with the templete each of us will personally add in our name, contact and VIN and we'll pick a day and mail it out to BMW NA in Jersey. They'll surely be a little concerned if we indicate that we'll take further legal action if nothing is done. BMW NA receiving 20 30 letters from their pretty high almost top of the line 5 series cars (at the moment) might give them some incentive to help us. Surely we would later buy more BMWs and word of mouth advertising goes a long way.