545i SMG Clutch Problems
#1
Car has 95K on it (2005 Sport/Premium package).
From a dead stop I don't notice anything strange,
But if I'm at a steady speed and accelerate, the revs spin up about 200RPM and then it's like the car backs into its powerband.
Underneath 1000RPM there's a surging in 1st and in reverse under real light throttle.
Just got back, thankfully, after sitting in traffic for a few minutes with a non-moving vehicle. I'd picked up my family from a football game and the car was doing the lurching thing in traffic...sorta embarrassing so I was riding the brake while giving it throttle to try to keep it from lurching. Dumb, I know. I only did that a couple of times and then the next time I tried to accelerate the motor just spun up to about 2000RPM and then BANG into gear. That happened about twice and then the motor just spun. I sat there for about 15 minutes trying to figure out what to do when I restarted the car and things were back to normal.
I've searched the forums to find issues like this and have found some of the symptoms, but nothing that covers everything.
I'm thinking shot tranny but am hoping someone else has a less expensive diagnosis.
From a dead stop I don't notice anything strange,
But if I'm at a steady speed and accelerate, the revs spin up about 200RPM and then it's like the car backs into its powerband.
Underneath 1000RPM there's a surging in 1st and in reverse under real light throttle.
Just got back, thankfully, after sitting in traffic for a few minutes with a non-moving vehicle. I'd picked up my family from a football game and the car was doing the lurching thing in traffic...sorta embarrassing so I was riding the brake while giving it throttle to try to keep it from lurching. Dumb, I know. I only did that a couple of times and then the next time I tried to accelerate the motor just spun up to about 2000RPM and then BANG into gear. That happened about twice and then the motor just spun. I sat there for about 15 minutes trying to figure out what to do when I restarted the car and things were back to normal.
I've searched the forums to find issues like this and have found some of the symptoms, but nothing that covers everything.
I'm thinking shot tranny but am hoping someone else has a less expensive diagnosis.
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my close friend has the same car w/ the same engine....she needed a full ECU flash of the transmission/car. bmwusa took the diagnosis data and determined that software updates would solve the issue. after re-flashing....the car was all good again. only cost 1 hr of labor. good luck though man....my 2004 545i (automatic) transmission is shot....5th gear is slipping and the torque converter is bad. im SOL.
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search M3 forum (e46), you have almost identical tranny as M3 SMG just one difference is no 6 different sitting.
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=231113
If it's problem with trany, I would replace salmon relay first.
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=231113
If it's problem with trany, I would replace salmon relay first.
#4
Had the transmission and clutch fluids replaced, didn't help.
Flywheel + clutch replacement is up next. Does anyone know of a lighter than OE flywheel + stronger clutch? I figure if I've gotta spend the money to tear the thing apart may as well get a little performance boost.
Flywheel + clutch replacement is up next. Does anyone know of a lighter than OE flywheel + stronger clutch? I figure if I've gotta spend the money to tear the thing apart may as well get a little performance boost.
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Lincoln, Nebraska.
I just got off the phone with Dinan; they have a lightened flywheel that isn't listed on their site, for whatever reason. It's $2295 but they're selling stuff at 85% through then end of the year so it'll be $1950.
I may go that direction; seems like the OE flywheel is going to run $1500 so an additional $500 for a lightened version works for me.
I just got off the phone with Dinan; they have a lightened flywheel that isn't listed on their site, for whatever reason. It's $2295 but they're selling stuff at 85% through then end of the year so it'll be $1950.
I may go that direction; seems like the OE flywheel is going to run $1500 so an additional $500 for a lightened version works for me.
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I think your issue is a software issue. You need to Update the DME and then test. Afterward you can throw tranny software on too or reset adaption values as a final option. (if you update DME you also have to reset adaption values) Send me PM I'll discuss further.
Had the transmission and clutch fluids replaced, didn't help.
Flywheel + clutch replacement is up next. Does anyone know of a lighter than OE flywheel + stronger clutch? I figure if I've gotta spend the money to tear the thing apart may as well get a little performance boost.
Flywheel + clutch replacement is up next. Does anyone know of a lighter than OE flywheel + stronger clutch? I figure if I've gotta spend the money to tear the thing apart may as well get a little performance boost.
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my close friend has the same car w/ the same engine....she needed a full ECU flash of the transmission/car. bmwusa took the diagnosis data and determined that software updates would solve the issue. after re-flashing....the car was all good again. only cost 1 hr of labor. good luck though man....my 2004 545i (automatic) transmission is shot....5th gear is slipping and the torque converter is bad. im SOL.
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Unfortunately I'm one of at least 5 members here and like 10+ m era over at bimmerfest.com that has the same issue. When I took it to the BMW dealership u bought the car from they knew exactly what the issue was bc many 04 & 05 E60s with the automatic trans experience the same issue. it's the mechatronics system located within the torque converter housing that goes bad with great frequency. It costs roughly $6500 to fix bc you basically have to get a new trans as I've been informed. I'm hurt...deeply.
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5th gear is slipping. When feathering/cruising btwm 1k and 2.5k RPMs 5th gear continually disengages then re-engages causing what feels like an engine sputter. This occurs btwn 30 mph to 45 mph on regular roads and 70 mph to 80 mph while on the freeway in sport mode.
This issue is only found to be present in 5th gear...no matter in regular, sport or manual shift mode.
If you have any ideas let me know. But my gameplan right now is to take off all my mods (like $6k worth) and trade this bitch in...
2004 545i
64k miles....transmission issues since 48k miles
Sport package
Dinah stage 3 software
Dinan throttle body
Financial air intake w/ dual rpi scoops
Supersprint exhaust
5th gear is slipping. When feathering/cruising btwm 1k and 2.5k RPMs 5th gear continually disengages then re-engages causing what feels like an engine sputter. This occurs btwn 30 mph to 45 mph on regular roads and 70 mph to 80 mph while on the freeway in sport mode.
This issue is only found to be present in 5th gear...no matter in regular, sport or manual shift mode.
If you have any ideas let me know. But my gameplan right now is to take off all my mods (like $6k worth) and trade this bitch in...
2004 545i
64k miles....transmission issues since 48k miles
Sport package
Dinah stage 3 software
Dinan throttle body
Financial air intake w/ dual rpi scoops
Supersprint exhaust